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I thought Sons of Anarchy delivered last night HUGH. We had all kinds of crazy chit go down including Jimmy Smits aka Miguel Prado in Season 3 of Dexter (and legend for so much else he has done) playing a pimp and Gemma's new love interest :grabsome:

Love everything they did last night. That was really well thought and packed a punch.

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Inglourious Basterds (2009) - Rewatched this recently. Had not seen it since it first came out. I'm interested in other comments. Here are mine:

Possibly the biggest missed opportunity of all time. I had forgotten what a great movie this is. It has magnificently creative and savagely beautiful scenes right from the beginning. One after the other. And it doesn't let up.

Until the end.

It's not like it had a promising first 25 minutes or even first half and then things fell apart. I see that quite often. But this had an absolutely classic first 94.1% - they just needed to bring it home in any kind of reasonable fashion and it would be right up there with my all-time favorites - and they fucking blew it. (They, I guess, meaning he [Tarantino])

The ending was simply WRONG. And it is such a lynchpin of the whole story . . . UGH! I was ready to rate this thing a 9. That is so rare for me. That is Pulp Fiction/Godfather territory.

But it's a 7. That's all I can do with that ending. :dunno:

That's the conclusion I came to on this viewing and I see that was the rating I decided on after the first viewing. 7




Just curious; does anyone find that ending defensible?

Any general thoughts here?
 
(And when I say the ending, I am referring to the final theater scenes in case there is any doubt. I am not referring to the literal ending with the "marking" of Hans Landa - which was right back to being a magnificent idea and scene, in keeping with the quality of most of the movie.

But no, that theater scene.)
 
I didn't think the ending was especially noteworthy. IMOWally, it's a movie about movies and storytelling, more than it is a story.

Easily one of the best movies of the last 15-20 years and an instant classic. Neun punkt zwei Matty Rains.

What kind of ending would make you upgrade your rating?
 
Mudcat
(And when I say the ending, I am referring to the final theater scenes in case there is any doubt. I am not referring to the literal ending with the "marking" of Hans Landa - which was right back to being a magnificent idea and scene, in keeping with the quality of most of the movie.

But no, that theater scene.)
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Aaaah. Yeah that was kinda cheesy, the little jewish girl who comes back to burn a movietheater's worth of Nazi leaders.

Still felt good.
 
The problem for me was it was set in the real world. If they had set it in some fictional world with a fictional war with thinly disguised Nazis/Hitler, you can do whatever you want to them. Or just alter the story a bit. I could come up with multiple ways they could have gone to stay true to history but still keep Landa's all-important gambit intact.

But you can't change history. At least it doesn't work for me.

Didn't make me feel good at all. Just the opposite: it came off like a petulant defeated child lashing out irrationally and dishonestly at some bully who got the better of him.




Comparable case: the Christopher Nolan flic, The Prestige. Beautiful movie. Clever, ingenious story-telling. Only problem was he set it in the real world and the whole thing hinged on stuff that simply doesn't happen in the real world. We all know it doesn't.



There are things I can suspend disbelief about - but not the laws of physics or known history.
 
Mudcat
The problem for me was it was set in the real world. If they had set it in some fictional world with a fictional war with thinly disguised Nazis/Hitler, you can do whatever you want to them. Or just alter the story a bit. I could come up with multiple ways they could have gone to stay true to history but still keep Landa's all-important gambit intact.

But you can't change history. At least it doesn't work for me.

Didn't make me feel good at all. Just the opposite: it came off like a petulant defeated child lashing out irrationally and dishonestly at some bully who got the better of him.




Comparable case: the Christopher Nolan flic, The Prestige. Beautiful movie. Clever, ingenious story-telling. Only problem was he set it in the real world and the whole thing hinged on stuff that simply doesn't happen in the real world. We all know it doesn't.




There are things I can suspend disbelief about - but not the laws of physics or known history.
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I got all that out of the 1st ten minutes and left. It was insulting to any Jew, anyone who lived through a war, anyone with have a brain, aka typical American fantasy passed of as plausible reality. :puke:
 
I can see that. In some ways, it is comparable to the TV show Dexter. You can step back and say it is implausible and in fact very ridiculous but I just find it entertaining. Same with the basterds. Some fun fictional escapist savagery.

However if they suddenly had Dexter killing Charles Manson and Son of Sam, it would change the vibe totally for me.
 
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Muddy what was your Favorite Season/Villain in Dexter?
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You know, I really liked the season with Julia Stiles (other than the horrible name they gave her character. Fokken Lumen?) But that arc from victim to motivated aggressor was as absorbing as anything they have done IMO.

It was a different sort of villain. I wouldn't call it my favorite villain. Not particularly memorable. But I liked that season.
 
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