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Why the Phillies will be 2011 WS Champs!

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Immortality
Phillies lose and on the last out by Ryan Howard, they may have lost him for all of next year

It is an achilles injury and if he completely tore it, you can pretty much say goodbye to his 2012 season
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Damn, I feel kind of bad now.

I thought for sure he fell in a heap like that so he wouldn't have to hear Philly fan boo him once again.

Turns out that didn't work anyway, because they boo'd the shit out of him as he was being carried off the field in agony a couple minutes later.
 
Immortality
Phillies lose and on the last out by Ryan Howard, they may have lost him for all of next year

It is an achilles injury and if he completely tore it, you can pretty much say goodbye to his 2012 season
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I guess the silver lining of this would be the fact that Howard is only set to make $20mm next year with his new contract. The $25mm dollar years don't set in until 2014, 2015, and 2016.

The Phillies were dead set on not letting him test the free agent market after this season. How's that working out?
 
MrMonkey
if the Phils go in a hitting funk every team scares me! You can't expect Halladay, Lee, and Hamels to give up only 1-2 runs every game! Could lose 2-1, 3-2 type games very easily!
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Or lose 1-0! Poor Roy H! TG he has only 2 years left on his contract here! Feel bad on him!

Still believe the Phils have quality hitters who go up to the plate with no strategy on what they want to do and being able to work the pitcher! Getting pitch counts up high and understanding a BB is the same as a 1B they don't understand!
 
Monkey, you will always have 2008.

Take it from the fan of a team that has consistently choked in the post season also. You will look back in 10 or 15 years and remember that one championship fondly. The multitude of choke jobs in the post season that you will have endured will still hurt. Don't get me wrong. But you will also be able to look back at that one special moment (for me it's '95) and remember it well.
 
Jello
Don't know about an 8 year period. Let's stick to the season in question. You'll be happy to know that the Braves outspent the Marlins in 1997...by about a half mil. Marlins were 5th; Braves were 4th.

http://www.baseballchronology.com/Baseball/Years/1997/Payroll.asp




Yeah. Just another game with a bad strike zone. Nothing outstanding about it at all.

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/worstcalls/010730.html

http://www.complex.com/sports/2009/10/blind-fury-the-5-worst-umpire-calls-in-mlb-playoff-history
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Jello, you're going to have to remind me; what exactly is your point?


Please tell me your point is not that the Marlins got all the calls that game and the Braves didn't.


From the article you posted to support your stance:


Eric Gregg had been calling a wide strike zone all game so it really wasn't that much of a surprise when he called Fred McGriff out on the final pitch
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commmmmmoooooonnnnnnnn
 
Daft
Jello, you're going to have to remind me; what exactly is your point?


Please tell me your point is not that the Marlins got all the calls that game and the Braves didn't.


From the article you posted to support your stance:





commmmmmoooooonnnnnnnn
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I give up. Never mind.

You're either such a homer that you can't admit what is a universally accepted fact by anyone who remembers that game - Eric Gregg gave Livan Hernandez anything within 5 feet of the strikezone en route to umpiring what was then a post season record 15 strikeout game - or you just don't remember the game. It was so clearly umpired in favor of Hernandez that you must not remember it.

Just google "Eric Greg strikezone" if you really need a refresher.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/the-eric-gregg-livan-hernandez-game-explained/
 
Daffy, I tracked down a video that might jog your memory. If you skip to 1:30 you will see 2 strikeouts.

The first is Lockhart in the 9th whiffing at a pitch in the right handed batter's box that he has NO chance of hitting. He had to swing at that because it was a strike to Eric Gregg. The second batter is McGriff on the final out. You will see why Lockhart had to swing at the pitch that he had no chance of making contact with once you see the pitch Gregg call McGriff out on. That was his strikezone all day for Livan. Atlanta had no chance that day.

Hernandez's previous career high strikeouts was 8. He rung up 15 Braves that day with Gregg's help. He's never averaged more than 6.7k's per 9 in any season of his career.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7191119
 
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