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MonkeyF0cker
There is certainly a great deal of sensationalism in the media about it. But there are also a lot of incidents of mass shootings that just didn't happen (at least not nearly as frequently) in prior years. I blame Columbine.
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I blame alot of things, some of which is a growing body of incidents (and deeper media coverage of them) to reflect upon in people born in the last 50 years.

but more I think it has to do with a propensity for a higher % and a thus a way higher actual number of clinically unstable humans.

some of this is just a product of western society on some level IMO....

now there are another 100 variables you gotta throw into the mix for why that is happening...

I blame Richard Simmons and 21 jump street for most of it though
 
MonkeyF0cker
Well, we're agreeing in a way. My point is that there are other countries where citizens have similar access to guns and they don't have the same problems that the U.S. does.
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People in the US are very trigger friendly. Like someone is hitting on your girlfriend and you go out and get a gun and shoot him down. In Europe you beat the crap out of him. No need to shoot him. This is just an example.
 
I'd like to add something to this discussion and hopefully keep it simple.

It is my opinion that there is a LARGE group of individuals in the US (large compared to say, Canada) that do not value another persons life
like, say, the average forum poster would value another life.

Where we would only dream of killing someone if they killed a loved one (child/parent) of ours, these people will take the life of another because they were "disrespected" or were shorted on a bag of drugs etc.
 
Daft
I'd like to add something to this discussion and hopefully keep it simple.

It is my opinion that there is a LARGE group of individuals in the US (large compared to say, Canada) that do not value another persons life
like, say, the average forum poster would value another life.

Where we would only dream of killing someone if they killed a loved one (child/parent) of ours, these people will take the life of another because they were "disrespected" or were shorted on a bag of drugs etc.
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good point pal. I've never shot a gun, but there were instances I might have used one had one been handy.
 
Saulty
People in the US are very trigger friendly. Like someone is hitting on your girlfriend and you go out and get a gun and shoot him down. In Europe you beat the crap out of him. No need to shoot him. This is just an example.
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In Canada we let other guys fuck our girlfriends after they have hit on them.

Why would you kill a guy for wanting to put his thing in your girl? It's not like you've never thought/fantasized about putting your thing in someone elses girl.

Very stereotypical friendly Canadians!

We value human life, it shows!
 
Daft
I'd like to add something to this discussion and hopefully keep it simple.

It is my opinion that there is a LARGE group of individuals in the US (large compared to say, Canada) that do not value another persons life
like, say, the average forum poster would value another life.

Where we would only dream of killing someone if they killed a loved one (child/parent) of ours, these people will take the life of another because they were "disrespected" or were shorted on a bag of drugs etc.
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Yup. They live life like a video game.
 
By Andrew Greenstein, Stephanie Brown, Rich Jones
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — We've learned the identity of the man shot and killed while he was trying to rob a Dollar General Monday night.
The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office says a customer at the store on Dunn Avenue shot 22 year-old Rakeem Odoms three times when Odoms refused to hand over his gun.

The shopper has a concealed weapons permit, and Lt. Rob Schoonover with the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office says the man wasted no time springing into action.

http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/customer-shoots-robber-dead/nRLjK/
 
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Armed bystander stops stabbing outside school

The child's father, 38-year-old Roberto Barron allegedly then stabbed the woman several times in the upper body and neck area.

Police say a bystander who happened to be a concealed handgun license holder pulled his weapon and ordered Barron to drop the knife. Barron surrendered and was taken into custody by the bystander and a school district officer.

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Regarding those who commented that somehow a citizen is less qualified than a police officer regarding the use of firearms. May I add that I shoot AT LEAST 4 times a month.

From an NYPD Officer.

•Every officer hired since the introduction of pistols in the NYPD back in the early nineties is NOT allowed to use a revolver as their service weapon. They must choose between a Glock 19, S&W 5946, or a Sig p226. All of these guns are in DAO variant and have NO external safety.

•Everyone who is allowed to carry a gun in the department (not everyone is) has to re-qualify once every six months (give or take, it has been as short as five and as long as nine sometimes).

•MOST NYPD officers fire their FIRST gun, ever in their entire lives, at the police academy, some as young as 21 to as old as 35 shooting for their very first time, and on a DAO pistol.

•The qualifications are HORRIBLE mad get dumbed down every year.

•The NYPD offers once a month training for members to use, on their own time. However, all that is done during these sessions are the same basic dumbed down qualification exercises. You will only receive real help if you outright fail. Missed 12 out of fifty @ 7 yards? GOOD ENOUGH!

•Our tactical training is a joke and maybe ten people in a department of 34K have had Active Shooter training (I am not exaggerating).

There is a lot broken, basically.

Some of our members NEVER take their service weapons out of their gun belts, and never carry ANYTHING off duty. I have seen people with 3 years on have brown rusted rear sights. Some never clean their weapons unless forced to by the firearms unit.

The NYPD has been tight fisted with ammo for the longest time. Take your one box and be happy.
 
Daft
I'd like to add something to this discussion and hopefully keep it simple.

It is my opinion that there is a LARGE group of individuals in the US (large compared to say, Canada) that do not value another persons life
like, say, the average forum poster would value another life.

Where we would only dream of killing someone if they killed a loved one (child/parent) of ours, these people will take the life of another because they were "disrespected" or were shorted on a bag of drugs etc.
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it all comes down to "keeping it real"
 
VERONA Earl Jones had just turned off his new TV shortly after 2 a.m. Monday when he heard a bang in the basement.

The 92-year-old Boone County farmer walked eight paces to get his loaded .22 caliber rifle from behind the bedroom door. He unwrapped a beige cloth and returned to the living room, sitting in a chair with clear view and shot of the basement door, waiting with the gun across his lap.

Some 15 minutes later, when he heard footsteps moving closer up the stairs, he raised the rifle to his eye. The intruder kicked open the door. Jones fixed his aim on the center of the mans chest and fired a single shot. The Boone County Sheriff later announced the death of the intruder, Lloyd (Adam) Maxwell, 24, of Richmond, Ky.

These people arent worth any more to me than a groundhog, Jones told the Enquirer. They have our country in havoc. We got so many damned crooked people walking around today.

Two men with Maxwell, Ryan Dalton, 22, and Donnie Inabnit, 20, both of Dry Ridge, were charged with second degree burglary and tampering with evidence. Police say they removed Maxwells body from Jones Violet Road home.

The Boone County Sheriff had no information Monday night on whether Jones would be charged, but he appeared clearly to act within Kentuckys legal definition of justifiable force in the defense of his home and property.

The number of killings nationally of a felon during the commission of a felony by private citizens has increased in recent years, from 196 in 2005 to 278 in 2010, acording to FBI Uniform Crime Report statistics.

The break-in was the third Jones has experienced on his farm this year. In April, thieves stole 90 head of cattle from the field behind his house. In August, burglars took from his house a television, a few thousands dollars cash and a personal check they unsuccessfully tried to cash and ripped his phone out of the wall.

http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/A...obber-home?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
 
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