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Interesting. I remember Klitschko getting involved in politics a while ago, like 2005 or so. I know his main motivation was to fight corruption. I thought all the recent hoopla was about taking out Yanukovych on the basis of widespread corruption.

Now you're telling me that Neo-Nazis are in the mix.

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Fok anything east of Poland. Poland's cool.

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Solidarnosc 'n shit.

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reno cool
They who man? The fascists?
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It is also a simple tactic to label the whole movement fascist to discredit it. I am sure there are fascist factions that are taking advatange of the upheaval and we can count on western intel to have had presence in the ground in support, but by and large the whole product was a revolution of the people against corruption.

I am surprised here reno, I thought you would be in favor of the revolution. The west will benefit immensely to such a strategic piece like quincy posted but that doesn't make the level of corrupt government manipulation from Russia right. Reno we can't preach revolution but only accept it against certain countries (the west). You're displaying an anti-US stance, I thought you were against ALL corrupt government.
 
Cougar Bait
Sometimes removing a corrupt government is the worst decision

It kinda depends upon who is there waiting to take over
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Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, etc are examples of why the US should not be involved in removing corrupt governments because the puppet governments we have installed are worse. For example Turkey, Egypt, Bulgaria, Italy, etc have corrupt governments but we allow them to stay in power because they are our allies and they serve our interests by being corrupt.

Let Russia deal with bankrupt Ukraine. We would the US taxpayer payer for Ukraine's defense? Let Ukraine reap the seeds they saw.
 
Rj, I dont know much about what corruption is going on or to what degree we should be against it. Its such a generic term. And I admit I dont know much about the specifics in general. But I do know there are plenty of ukranian fascists. And distabiizing, fragmenting the region and incorporating it into a subserviant roll in western economy is a move russia cannot allow. sure, I would be happy to see a revolution based on democratic, humanitary principles. But ths looks like a move to bring western influence (which is anything but) and weaken russia. So that the west can run arround creating havoc with even more impunity.
 
Btw, its not corruption im most opposed to, its policy. I also hate the russian white army bullshit banner. I dont doubt that theyre full of shit. And I sure dont like to seerussians in poverty, and the robbery of the country that happened after the disbanding of the ussr. But the last thing I want to see now is russians in the crimea and other minorities bieng persecuted by fascist ukranians. Fok that
 
You're repeating propaganda. There is no persecution, by fascists or anyone, to Russians to Tatars or to anybody. All the people wanted was integration into the European Union market. To say we fear a theoretical persecution to Russians and base all operations on that is just falling for the Russian propaganda. That is very clear.
 
vagabond
It took the new govt just a few days to cancel the minority languages law and make Ukrainian the sole official language. What will they do next? http://rt.com/news/minority-language-law-ukraine-035/
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What does that have to do with anything? A majority of countries have only one official language. For one thing, it simplifies communications at the institutional level.

Y'all need to get on Twitter. Have you not seen the pics taken by peaceful protestors who were touring the deserted presidential palace as if they were at the zoo? Yanukovych embezzled funds on a very large scale. People found a work order for 30 million euros worth of fokken *light fixtures*. He also had several garages filled with exotic and vintage cars.

He allegedly siphoned 70 billion dollorz in public funds, for his personal use.
 
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