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Robin Williams Commits Suicide

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The victim is the family not the dead guy. It was his choice. I believe it could have been avoided. And that last caller was generalizing but it's a national talk show so maybe he had the audience in mind, not sure Reno, but it was interesting that he chose that out, and not say pills or something less messy. I mean, I think that's certainly an aggressive statement, the method he chose.
 
I can see how the victim is no longer living, but in a situation where one side actually inherits the sadness and pain that comes with that decision and the other does not feel anything I believe in this scenario the true victim is the family. And I don't expect everyone to agree with that, it's just how I view the world. A series of choices that you are ultimately responsible for. Exactly why I don't think I should pay for someone else's bad behavior. Same theory.
 
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I can see how the victim is no longer living, but in a situation where one side actually inherits the sadness and pain that comes with that decision and the other does not feel anything I believe in this scenario the true victim is the family. And I don't expect everyone to agree with that, it's just how I view the world. A series of choices that you are ultimately responsible for. Exactly why I don't think I should pay for someone else's bad behavior. Same theory.
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. What if killed himself because he was in chronic excruciating pain caused by some physical ailment.

Would your view be the same? How about if he had been diagnosed with a disease like ALS or Alzheimer's and would face sure decline and certain emotional disturbance to his family? Just curious if you would see it differently or not.
 
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. What if killed himself because he was in chronic excruciating pain caused by some physical ailment.

Would your view be the same? How about if he had been diagnosed with a disease like ALS or Alzheimer's and would face sure decline and certain emotional disturbance to his family? Just curious if you would see it differently or not.
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Yes those are different circumstances, ones to which no one is privy to. But that would certainly change my point of view. It's not that I don't believe there are those circumstances that warrant a different response. I'm not that black/white. But, I would assume something of that magnitude would have been shared by this point but who knows. I'm sure the family is not crazy about the fact that the last image they have of him is hanging from the end of a belt. I think like has been previously stated whatever medication they put him on should be the #1 point of interest right now.
 
No you don't Arch but I'll play along

63 years old at the time of death 6+3=9

9 is the number of completion

Born 7/21/1951 7+2+1+1+9+5+1=26 (2+6)=8 8 life path, 3 karmic, almost all comedians have a 3 somewhere in their Numerology.
Died 8/11/2014 8+11+2+1+4=26 (2+6)=8 Died on an 8 day with 11 emotional energy

His full name Robin McLaurin Williams adds to 102 (another 3)
 
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Yes those are different circumstances, ones to which no one is privy to. But that would certainly change my point of view. It's not that I don't believe there are those circumstances that warrant a different response. I'm not that black/white. But, I would assume something of that magnitude would have been shared by this point but who knows. I'm sure the family is not crazy about the fact that the last image they have of him is hanging from the end of a belt. I think like has been previously stated whatever medication they put him on should be the #1 point of interest right now.
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I shouldn't have thrown in the terminal illness. Let's keep it simple as I was really just interested in the pain part. Say if he was in excrutiating pain from some accident and had the option to terminate his life to spare himself from what in his head could be unbearable pain for what would be an undetermined period of time. I think in this case people would blame the circumstance and be sad that it happened , but would not fault him for "taking a coward's way out." For a person with clinical depression, the pain can be every bit as terrible, albeit different. And it may seem like there is no light at the end of the tunnel for him/her. Maybe he held out as long as he could.

The hanging part is puzzling I will agree. If he and his wife had had a big blowout and he was not thinking clearly due to alcohol or some other drug, maybe it was his way of getting back at her but that's complete speculation. Or it suggests that while his depression had been ongoing, the suicide itself may not have been planned out although most are I believe. I did hear that hanging is a pretty quick death though. You lose consciousness after about 45 seconds I think. He had cuts/lacerations on his hands , which some have suggested indicate he may have tried to slit his wrists but found this to have been too painful.

I can't help but think that this had something to do with a marital problem. The money problems are well documented, but something about them sleeping in different beds and her not checking on him before she left the house makes me think they may have had a fight. Who knows, maybe she was leaving him. I do find it odd that he didn't leave a note.

I see all the tributes on tv...silence at various games, Broadway going dark. I wonder if he knew how loved he was by so many. It's too bad he couldn't have a George Bailey opportunity (It's a Wonderful Life.) I keep reading stories of his generosity and kindness..He paid Christopher Reeves medical bills, sent Conan a bike after he was let go from the network, etc etc.

I have been watching clips of him for 2 days and he reminds me sooooo much of my friend who killed himself a couple months ago...right down to his facial expressions... the same creative and totally always "on" personality..both very kind and seemingly happy, both struggled with alcohol..

In any case, I can't remember any celebrity death in my lifetime that has garnered so much attention..maybe John Lennon I guess..and Elvis. Certainly no other suicides that I can think of. Maybe I'm missing someone.
 
Matty
Cougar sometimes you're sharp, and sometimes you revert to dumb-as-a-bag-of-nails status.

There is a world between "feeling depressed" and suffering from clinical depression..
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I swear I was going to post the same thing a few days ago but I gave up after Cougar implied that all of us were happy that Williams was dead.

I would add, though, that Cougar is sharp a lot more than he is dumb as a bag of nails.

I'd say it's 90/10.
 
Tron
I swear I was going to post the same thing a few days ago but I gave up after Cougar implied that all of us were happy that Williams was dead.

I would add, though, that Cougar is sharp a lot more than he is dumb as a bag of nails.

I'd say it's 90/10.
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Is that a subtle number of completion dig?
 
It's just my personal opinion, so sharp/unsharp in terms of my opinion is not all that important since it's consistent with how I treat most other stances involving personal responsibility. He joins a long list of famous comedian deaths, though he survived longer than most. Tears of the clown I guess.

Certainly his humanitarian work should not go unacknowledged, and from all accounts he was a really nice guy to pretty much everyone in public, I have to believe there's more to this that we don't know and may never know.
 
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