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Robin Williams Commits Suicide

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I can see how the victim is no longer living, but in a situation where one side actually inherits the sadness and pain that comes with that decision and the other does not feel anything I believe in this scenario the true victim is the family. And I don't expect everyone to agree with that, it's just how I view the world. A series of choices that you are ultimately responsible for. Exactly why I don't think I should pay for someone else's bad behavior. Same theory.

CB you make some good points. "Exactly why I don't think I should pay for someone else's bad behavior."

This is exactly how I feel when it comes to affirmative action programs in Canada. Or the fact that certain minority groups (Natives for example) get a free fucking ride on my dime. That shit drives me insane. It really makes me mad.
 
I get what Coug's is saying. IF it was about having money issues, having to work on tv to pay the bills and stuff like that....well those bills still exist whether he is here or not. And he isn't the one now having to deal with them. I can see where that would exacerbate the depression but still really sucks for those he left behind.

In the meantime..Lauren Bacall died and no one seems to care about her
 
I get what Coug's is saying. IF it was about having money issues, having to work on tv to pay the bills and stuff like that....well those bills still exist whether he is here or not. And he isn't the one now having to deal with them. I can see where that would exacerbate the depression but still really sucks for those he left behind.

In the meantime..Lauren Bacall died and no one seems to care about her
I think the majority of the cash flow problem were related to alimony. I don't know what happens to that when someone dies. He had set up trusts already for his kids. My guess is no one will be out on the streets. It's all relative. He may have had a life insurance policy also. Most of those have a limitation on pay out if death is by suicide ie you can't kill yourself within so many years of signing the policy though.

I think it is ultimate selfishness to expect someone to live in misery for your sake. Be it physical or emotional pain, his life belongs to him alone. The kids are old enough to work for themselves (and were already provided for,) the new wife will be fine I'm sure especially if the alimony payments die with him.

That being said, I would never off myself while my mom was still alive (even if she were self sufficient) I wouldn't want to inflict that kind of pain. I bet in his mind however he was doing them a favor..maybe he thought they would be better off without him.. We can speculate forever, but unless the wife gives some honest insight or there really was a note, (and some believe there was,) we will never really know.

I agree that the timing of Lauren Bacall's death was too bad. This happened to Farrah Fawcett too didn't it? Or she died at some time as someone else? What was that? Seems like someone got a raw "deal" there.
 
The bottom line, to me at least, is that there is way much more as to why RW did himself in, other than depression. There has to be.
What do you mean?

You can certainly tell in this thread those who have suffered from major depressive episodes from those who are clueless about the disorder. I'm not being snarky, it's just interesting. I'm happy for those who have never experienced real depression...the kind where forcing yourself to get out of bed to take a shower literally seems impossible. I hope you never do.
 
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You can certainly tell in this thread those who have suffered from major depressive episodes from those who are clueless about the disorder. I'm not being snarky, it's just interesting. I'm happy for those who have never experienced real depression...the kind where forcing yourself to get out of bed to take a shower literally seems impossible. I hope you never do.

+1

(I never have - I'm the anxious type, which is a different manifestation of the same shit.)

I find it quite odd that grown-ups of reasonable intelligence can be so completely oblivious to mental illness around them.
 
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What do you mean?

You can certainly tell in this thread those who have suffered from major depressive episodes from those who are clueless about the disorder. I'm not being snarky, it's just interesting. I'm happy for those who have never experienced real depression...the kind where forcing yourself to get out of bed to take a shower literally seems impossible. I hope you never do.

I just think that there are other contributing factors here. That's all. I know people who are depressed. I work with one. In RW case, I think there are other factors that lead him to do what he did. I don't think it was just his severe depression, but maybe it was.

I understand that depression affect people differently and I do feel for them. My mother suffers from fybromyalgia. I don't believe it. I think she's depressed and that is why her body aches. I am aware that depression hits people differently. Unfortunately, there is still a social stigma attached to it.
 
+1

(I never have - I'm the anxious type, which is a different manifestation of the same shit.)

I find it quite odd that grown-ups of reasonable intelligence can be so completely oblivious to mental illness around them.

I honestly think that almost everyone has some form of mental illness. You have anxiety attacks. At times, my mind races at night. I obsess over small things. I don't care for certain people I work with. It's all probably mental.
 
Yeah yeah. Obviously everyone is within a certain range and there is probably no such thing as a perfectly healthy mind.

But there are clearly-defined limits (DSM) beyond which your thoughts/emotions qualify as a crippling disorder.

Do you think my crazy neighbour can control her yelly impulses? No she can't.
 
Well, yes, your crazy neighbour has some form of mental illness. Probably schizophrenic. I also had a neighbour like that. Back in the early 90's. Buddy was wacked out of his mind. He once told my sister that he didn't trust me. I never spoke a word to him in my life. He used to yell and scream all the time.

Do you talk to yourself?
 
I don't. One of my cubicle neighbours said I was weird because I never talk to myself during the day.

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She's annoying with that shit.

Inner voice bitch, use your inner voice.
 
IAG
What do you mean?

You can certainly tell in this thread those who have suffered from major depressive episodes from those who are clueless about the disorder. I'm not being snarky, it's just interesting. I'm happy for those who have never experienced real depression...the kind where forcing yourself to get out of bed to take a shower literally seems impossible. I hope you never do.

Okay so let's test this theory.

Tell us what posters listed in this thread have NOT had major battles with depression.
 
Cougar sometimes I'm not sure whether you're just trolling, or are actually a massive bonehead.

The numerology shit was a fun running gag for the first few days.

I would bet TEN DOLLORZ that you haven't been diagnosed with a major depressive disorder.

"Major depressive episode" is not an expression that's thrown around to impress - it's a clinical term.
 
Cougar sometimes I'm not sure whether you're just trolling, or are actually a massive bonehead.

The numerology shit was a fun running gag for the first few days.

I would bet TEN DOLLORZ that you haven't been diagnosed with a major depressive disorder.

"Major depressive episode" is not an expression that's thrown around to impress - it's a clinical term.

really? :hides: