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So the way microwaves work is by focusing a wave of specific frequency at the middle of the oven. This frequency is specific to make water molecules vibrate and thus heat up. Given that there is time between 1 second exposure to the waves the butter will cool. Is the effect of sprinting for 1 minute the same as sprinting for 6 10 second intervals with 10 second breaks in-between? I think the max temperature will be lower and the effect somewhat different.
 
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What about the time you're giving the butter to recuperate between jolts? that should count for something
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True, true.

My normal process is to nuke the butter for 37 seconds - then leave it sit there while the Orville Redenbacher Pop-Up Bowl pops. That is a bit over 2 minutes. My observation has been that it does not change noticably in that 2 minutes. Sometimes there is a bit of unmelted butter in there and it will finish melting while it waits.

So same deal with the 1-second-at-a-time butter. I will leave it to sit and wait for the popcorn ---> see what kind of condition it is in when the time comes.

I will know if it is the same or not. I admit, it is not a perfect methodology but I am going with it.



I just hope I don't lose count.
 
Boner_18
So the way microwaves work is by focusing a wave of specific frequency at the middle of the oven. This frequency is specific to make water molecules vibrate and thus heat up. Given that there is time between 1 second exposure to the waves the butter will cool. Is the effect of sprinting for 1 minute the same as sprinting for 6 10 second intervals with 10 second breaks in-between? I think the max temperature will be lower and the effect somewhat different.
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This introduces some deceptive Newtonian (for lack of a better word) thinking to the discussion though. You start talking about sprinting and acceleration is part of it.

There is no acceleration with microwaves. Instantaneous max speed and max energy transfer.

If we could do this in a vacuum with a perfectly efficient microwave generator, there is no doubt in my mind the one second bursts would produce identical results. After any given length of time post-zapping, the targets would have received the exact same total energy with the same amount of cooling off time. The physics is clear.

The wildcard here, as MrX illustrated, is the actual Microwave Oven might be a very silly microwave oven with Valley Girl tendencies to fuss and dilly-dally.
 
The effect of exposing anything to a fixed unit of energy at different time intervals produces different results. Apply a flame to a pot of water for 1 minute and measure the temp. Apply the same flame (no acceleration) to the pot for 6 10 second minute intervals with even a single second of down time between "bursts" and the final, as well as the max temp reached at any time will be lower.
 
Essentially there is some cumulative effect to the water molecules vibrating. In a way you need to talk about acceleration because you ARE decelerating the water molecules every time the microwave stops. The microwaves get up to speed instantaneously but the water in the substance you are nuking doesn't.
 
Boner is smart

Muscat is not.


This is not a hard concept.

Mudcat:

Find a lighter and light it.

Slowly move your open hand across the top of it...

Take a second off and repeat...5 times...10 times...whatever you can stand.

Now hold your hand continusely over the lighter on your other hand of the same period of time.


Now...after you bandage your one hand...and before the thought of melted butter before you use it drives you to drink...try your 3rd grade science experiment with a cup of water.
 
Boner_18
The effect of exposing anything to a fixed unit of energy at different time intervals produces different results. Apply a flame to a pot of water for 1 minute and measure the temp. Apply the same flame (no acceleration) to the pot for 6 10 second minute intervals with even a single second of down time between "bursts" and the final, as well as the max temp reached at any time will be lower.
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Max temperature and the temperature pattern between the 2 systems will be different, sure. At times when one has had more energy than the other, it is an absolute law that they be different.

But you also said final temperature. That's a big no. Once equal amounts of total energy have been applied to both systems, they end up the same place. Assuming we are talking strictly about thermal energy and there are no kinetic offshoots such as an explosion - that means same temp.

One system gets hotter then cools, the other heats more gradually and steadily ---> they end up the same place.

It is a fundamental law of Physics called the law of conservation of energy. I'm not trying to be a wise-ass but if you want to stand by what you have said here and can prove it, your place in history beside Newton and Galileo is assured.
 
Mudcat
Max temperature and the temperature pattern between the 2 systems will be different, sure. At times when one has had more energy than the other, it is an absolute law that they be different.

But you also said final temperature. That's a big no. Once equal amounts of total energy have been applied to both systems, they end up the same place. Assuming we are talking strictly about thermal energy and there are no kinetic offshoots such as an explosion - that means same temp.

One system gets hotter then cools, the other heats more gradually and steadily ---> they end up the same place.

It is a fundamental law of Physics called the law of conservation of energy. I'm not trying to be a wise-ass but if you want to stand by what you have said here and can prove it, your place in history beside Newton and Galileo is assured.
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Their total energy received is NOT the same because of the time between bursts where the multi-nuked item is exposed to the thermal energy of the environment it's in - the cooling period. I'm not trying to change physics, you're ignoring it.
 
Anyhoo, in the discussion I was having with MrX, and he will hopefully correct me if he feels I am misrepresenting him: given our inevitable agreement on the law of conservation of energy, this is really just a fun guessing game at how much efficiency is lost (or in fact gained) by the timer on a commercial microwave oven.

And we are both guessing it will get the job done one second at a time.

We shall see. I figure about 9:30 is go time.
 
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