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This sins-of-the-mind discussion goes hand-in-hand with my internal monologue thoughts. Am I a bad person to internally call someone fat? Am I cruel?

I can't help it. Not saying that's what I wanted to think - but I did.

I didn't say it to her. I knew it was a stupid thought - and cruel - so I stifled it - but it happened.

Do I need to lie to myself? Should I pretend I am a nicer person than I really am? Should I try to convince myself that I don't have such thoughts? Would that help anything? Would I believe myself?

I know that's what a lot of religious people do. Denial of their true nature. Lying to self.

Denial, denial, denial. To the point where they believe themselves.


Except unfortunately - and this is the big problem - they don't.
 
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This sins-of-the-mind discussion goes hand-in-hand with my internal monologue thoughts. Am I a bad person to internally call someone fat? Am I cruel?

I can't help it. Not saying that's what I wanted to think - but I did.

I didn't say it to her. I knew it was a stupid thought - and cruel - so I stifled it - but it happened.

Do I need to lie to myself? Should I pretend I am a nicer person than I really am? Should I try to convince myself that I don't have such thoughts? Would that help anything? Would I believe myself?

I know that's what a lot of religious people do. Denial of their true nature. Lying to self.

Denial, denial, denial. To the point where they believe themselves.


Except unfortunately - and this is the big problem - they don't.
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I cannot believe in a concept of sin of the mind...at least with regard to what Muddy is talking about...if you see a fat person, you are going to notice...just like if you see an attractive person, a new car, whatever. I don't think that is even a choice.
 
I wonder how many God fearing people think bad thoughts through out their lives, and figure it's no big deal because they didn't act on it or say it out loud.

Muddy, do you think it's possible to learn to control our thoughts? Do we create our own thoughts, or does our 'mind' really have a mind of it's own?
 
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That's a weird picture cause it looks like Jesus is saying the things in the text.

I don't believe that Christianity claims Jesus created anything. He is allegedly the Messiah and son of God. :dunno:

I think whomever made that is doing it wrong.

Which reminds me of the AMAZING "Furniture: You're Doing It Wrong" featuring fiveteamer that I think Polaroid made.


does anyone still have that?
 
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I wonder how many God fearing people think bad thoughts through out their lives, and figure it's no big deal because they didn't act on it or say it out loud.

Muddy, do you think it's possible to learn to control our thoughts? Do we create our own thoughts, or does our 'mind' really have a mind of it's own?
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It is definitely possible to control our thoughts. It is not a black-and-white thing but thinking can be trained in an improved direction with persistent work. I know from first-hand experience.

Self-honesty is all important. Denial is a disease. I have obviously touched on that a lot in my experiences around addictions, but it applies to all things. Whatever is going on upstairs, accept it and take ownership. If it's something kinda crappy, well, guess what? - I'm human. We are flawed - join the club. Denial will not help. Denial is toxic. Denial is cancer.
 
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