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There's just alot of depth there. Hustlers, people trying to make it as pros, some very talented. Beating games no one thinks is possible, colorful personal lives. A lot of it is ugly. The essence of America :up: You have the same themes that most movies try to explore only it's real and not forced absurdity.
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Agreed. I don't think Muddy has hung around a track, poker room, or sportsbook long enough to make an informed opinion about the lifestyle. Gamblers are overall much different than SBR posters.
 
Matty
If you wanna go that route - words have several meanings Muddy. You went the "reliant" way where the author meant "contingent".

But sure, act tough all you want. You didn't interpret.

I don't read anyone who wears a monocle. That's where I draw the line.

Baboon.
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Hope I wasn't insulting in my mention of Knut Hamsun. I didn't mean it that way. I have read Hamsun and he is not my cup of tea but many respectable people like him. The very little I know of this guy we are talking about now - just what I have inferred from this discussion - brought Hamsun to mind. But the key phrase there is, "the very little I know."



Okay so what about the adjective profoundly? To me, that points things in the direction of reliant more than contingent. Reliant in the context of this discussion is about thoughts and emotions. Profoundly is completely harmonious with that.

Contingent is more of a mathematical term. Not that profoundly absolutely couldn't be used with it but I would call it a much weaker linkage.

But now we are getting into subtleties of the English language and there really could be translation issues.

I don't mind either interpretation to be honest but the word profoundly is what leads me to believe the author's intent was reliant.
 
Wait. Why has this devolved into a contentious debate over the inferred meaning of an author's quote rather than a simple reference to the definition of the word which was denied to have merit?

gamble (gmbl)
v. gambled, gambling, gambles
v.intr.
1.
a. To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.
b. To play a game of chance for stakes.
2. To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit.
3. To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior: You are gambling with your health by continuing to smoke.
v.tr.
1. To put up as a stake in gambling; wager.
2. To expose to hazard; risk: gambled their lives in a dangerous rescue mission.
n.
1. A bet, wager, or other gambling venture.
2. An act or undertaking of uncertain outcome; a risk: I took a gamble that stock prices would rise.
 
Mudcat
But now we are getting into subtleties of the English language and there really could be translation issues.
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I'll concede that there is probably a translation issue. I merely pulled the English quote off Google, which I'd never read before.

Not that anyone cares but the French version, which was validated by Gombrowicz himself since he was fluent in it, says "Au plus profond de son tre, l'homme dpend de l'image de soi-mme qui se forme dans l'me d'autrui."

A closer (and less grandiose) translation would be Man fundamentally depends on whatever others construe him as. There's no notion of reflection in the French.

I know a lot of semi-outcast gambling types will object to that idea. Including myself at a certain point in time.

Shit's still legit.

I was kidding about not reading authors who wore monocles. Knut Hamsun sounded like a joke. Still does.
 
Hamsun is quite a mope, no question about that. Nobel Prize winning mope I believe. But still a mope.

I had him recommended to me at one time and tried him, and I'll pass from this point on.



(Again, really really not meaning this as a veiled shot at your guy whom I know next-to-nothing about.)
 
No, but I love that face! She's a hipster, right?

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I have not watched New Girl and I have certainly liked Zooey Deschanel in many things. Very appealing girl.

That of course is balanced against the extreme bad vibes I automatically get when I consider the concept, "network sitcom."

I might be convinced to try it depending on what gets said here.
 
Lions For Lambs (2007) - Seemed promising on paper. Meryl Streep. Robert Redford acting and directing. Topic that remains relevant today (politics/media/education as it relates to the war in Afghanistan).

Just didn't come together very well. It ended up seeming like a big lecture where the characters are devices. I'm not relating to them or feeling for them or invested in their fortunes. I'm just seeing a writer writing.

Similar effect to what I was finding with the TV show The Newsroom. Even though I agree with the majority of the points being made - and consider them important - I am not enjoying the pretense.

Not a horrible movie - just didn't click like it might have.

5.3 out of 10
 
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