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The backlash against Girls is 50% posturing, 50% allergic reaction to urban types.
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Posturing? I can't think of anyone I know who would do anything but shrug if I told them I'm borderline on ditching Girls. Posturing?

Well except for yourself who has become to Girls what Cougar Bait is to Twitter.

It has nothing to do with any contrived reason of anything. There are a million things in TV/movies/literature I have less business relating to than Girls that are just fine by me, sometimes excellent.

It's just repetitive and it's a comedy with few laughs. It's about the quality of the show.
 
On further thought, the comparison to Cougar Bait and Twitter is not quite valid though. Because while I feel sure there are a lot of people who like Girls, from what I can see Twitter is seen as a complete clusterfuck by users and non-users alike - and CB is the only person in the universe that defends it.
 
^^^ i could see that not being your thing... actually , i could see a lot of more believable law shows not being your deal...you have seen it all up close and know what really goes on...fake shit wouldnt do it for me either (dexter is just over the top fake shit though)

do you like the law and order shows? or csi type of stuff?
 
Girls is revolutionary show. I like how Hannah, Adam and almost all the characters take time to at least try to be honest with themselves. They explore intricacies of life.
Sure the topics may not be all that complicated, they are pretty common in fact. But the show is void of stylistic, empty nonsense. All the issues feel legit and realistic. Plus I find the theme, ambiance to be fresh and freeing.
Great shows like Sopranos throw out a lot of interesting stuff that the writers are ultimately unable to resolve. Girls is opposite of that. Lenna deserves a lot of credit for biting off exactly as much as she can chew :hattip: and she chews it well :up:
 
reno cool
Girls is revolutionary show. I like how Hannah, Adam and almost all the characters take time to at least try to be honest with themselves. They explore intricacies of life.
Sure the topics may not be all that complicated, they are pretty common in fact. But the show is void of stylistic, empty nonsense. All the issues feel legit and realistic. Plus I find the theme, ambiance to be fresh and freeing.
Great shows like Sopranos throw out a lot of interesting stuff that the writers are ultimately unable to resolve. Girls is opposite of that. Lenna deserves a lot of credit for biting off exactly as much as she can chew :hattip: and she chews it well :up:
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Nice review pal. Where did you plagiarize that from? :boxcleanersdaddy:
 
reno cool
Girls is revolutionary show. I like how Hannah, Adam and almost all the characters take time to at least try to be honest with themselves. They explore intricacies of life.
Sure the topics may not be all that complicated, they are pretty common in fact. But the show is void of stylistic, empty nonsense. All the issues feel legit and realistic. Plus I find the theme, ambiance to be fresh and freeing.
Great shows like Sopranos throw out a lot of interesting stuff that the writers are ultimately unable to resolve. Girls is opposite of that. Lenna deserves a lot of credit for biting off exactly as much as she can chew :hattip: and she chews it well :up:
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Well said man. It just comes across as sincere, in all its awkwardness and unfortunate body shape.
 
Watched David Lynch's Wild at Heart for the first time since college. Weird shit. I like it.

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Willem fucking Dafoe

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And Laura Dern topless:

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reno cool
Girls is revolutionary show. I like how Hannah, Adam and almost all the characters take time to at least try to be honest with themselves. They explore intricacies of life.
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I find that an unusual little comment.

In my view, shows having those characteristics are far from revolutionary - one could argue there are so many, they are a dime-a-dozen. Presenting characters with wisdom and philosophical grounding has been a pretty standard, easy, go-to position for writers for a long, long time.

I haven't actually heard Lena Dunham speak about Girls - so maybe I am misinterpreting her intentions - but based on what I am observing, her method is more of a backlash against that sort of model which some might feel is overdone and clich. Much like Seinfeld operated under the motto of (something like) "no hugs, no lessons" - defying sappy sitcom convention - Girls seems to have a similar philosophy, kinda saying, "Fuck all that enlightened characters crap - I'm going to have characters who are superficial and oblivious. If they have moments of self-honesty, it will be at the low end of the scale and only as a last resort."

That's what I'm seeing. I could list off a bunch of examples. Recent one that comes to mind is Hannah's reaction to death and her complete lack of self-honesty and self-awareness about her feelings.



All that IMO is to the show's credit. I like it. While I also would not classify that as revolutionary, it is more revolutionary than having characters that strive for self-honesty.

Personally I find the execution to be mediocre but the premise is good to my taste.
 
Things are done in a way I find atypical for tv shows.
Take for example last episode, how the conversation went between Hannah and Adam on the phone when she told him her mother wanted her to tell grandma they were getting married. I like how Hannah explained her position and then said "this conversation is making me angry and I don't know why so I got to go". that is well done and thoughtful.

Also Adams explanation why he was into the role playing and forceful sex in the past and not anymore (when Hannah tried)
seemed honest, realistic, sensible, creative and fitting with the line of the show.

the wisdom and philosophical worth is not in the base of the character but what comes out when the characters walk the path in the show. The wisdom that comes out is kind of unintentional from the characters view point.

I think her reaction to death was legit and honest in her world. I don't really think she was hiding her feelings. She was a little flipped out but mostly concerned about her writing, which is understandable in the context of the show. But then as time went on and she was berated by Adam and others (which again was excellently done) she begins to doubt herself and what it is she's about etc.. again, realistic, creative, morally respectable :up:
 
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