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I know that it is. (Same contest rules) The same argument could be said for someone who is able to wait til the end to wait to the end and "pluck" the moved numbers if that goes in their favor. Sometimes the stale lines might benefit you and sometimes they would hurt you. You don't know. Regardless, it's the same rules for everyone and apparently they have at least 1400 people who are willing to pay $1500 each for such an "unfair" contest.

I don't understand your "not everyone has the luxury of waiting to the very end to play" argument if you are saying it's not fair if you don't get live lines....A lot of line moves happen near game time. If this happened and people took advantage of them on the last day, people would complain that it's not fair as some people don't have time to wait around and watch the lines all week.



And you are in the unfair rx Hilton like cfb contest also. lol.
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I'm in the NFL one because I couldn't wait on Peeps any more.

Partly what you are missing is some like to play early to beat a line move and others play late after more info is known. Also if you liked a team and the line dropped but you have to take their bad number or nothing, why would anyone do that?

I haven't seen Irish Tim winning too many contests.
 
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I'm in the NFL one because I couldn't wait on Peeps any more.

Partly what you are missing is some like to play early to beat a line move and others play late after more info is known. Also if you liked a team and the line dropped but you have to take their bad number or nothing, why would anyone do that?

I haven't seen Irish Tim winning too many contests.
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You're in the NFL one AND the college one? Two unfair contests?!!!!

I'm saying if I liked team a and you liked team b (*same game) and a live line moved significantly by Saturday it will help one of us and hurt the other.
Maybe the format is not ideal, but for the last time, no one gets an unfair advantage. ..that is my only point. The people who are on the side of the line move will be happy...the others will say it's not fair.

I am not sure as to your point about Irish Tim. I remember nothing about him other than he was a "math guy."
 
IAG
You're in the NFL one AND the college one? Two unfair contests?!!!!

I'm saying if I liked team a and you liked team b (*same game) and a live line moved significantly by Saturday it will help one of us and hurt the other.
Maybe the format is not ideal, but for the last time, no one gets an unfair advantage. ..that is my only point. The people who are on the side of the line move will be happy...the others will say it's not fair.

I am not sure as to your point about Irish Tim. I remember nothing about him other than he was a "math guy."
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In a live lines format, technically we both can win our play depending on the time we made them. Now it's either/or.

I remember when Shdw was doing the Hilton with the partners 2-3 years ago. IT just selected the one with the biggest gap. He fared no better than anyone else. Still a good guy.
 
FairWarning
In a live lines format, technically we both can win our play depending on the time we made them. Now it's either/or.

I remember when Shdw was doing the Hilton with the partners 2-3 years ago. IT just selected the one with the biggest gap. He fared no better than anyone else. Still a good guy.
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I was in that Hilton group....I forget who else...seems like we tried to get Whale in but he wouldn't.

If Tim fared no better or worse than any one else by betting the biggest gap, how is it an advantage to bet the stale lines then? There has to be a certain amount of ability involved as well. I don't know why it being either/or is a bad thing.. we both don't need to win. ...I thought we decided that giving everyone ribbons was the demise of this country :) ?


Either way, this conversation is boring me. I think it's absurd to say that someone has an advantage under the current rules. You disagree. We can agree to disagree. It happens.
 
don't get defensive. It is not a super easy concept to grasp.

your rationale for why you think its fair shows me that you're not understanding.

Yes its fair in that everybody has the opportunity to wait till the last minute. No it is not fair to the early bettors.
 
“If a mathematician wishes to disparage the work of one of his colleagues, say, A, the most effective method he finds for doing this is to ask where the results can be applied. The hard pressed man, with his back against the wall, finally unearths the researches of another mathematician B as the locus of the application of his own results. If next B is plagued with a similar question, he will refer to another mathematician C. After a few steps of this kind we find ourselves referred back to the researches of A, and in this way the chain closes.”
― Alfred Tarski
 
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