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I feel there is a better than 50% chance I met Bateman in the Rubber Room at Covers all that time ago. There was poster called Patrick (plus he had a few ghosts at different times) who did the same angry, delusional, broken-record shtick. He kept getting banished to the basement and I would ride him. It did not make him happy.

I'm not saying for a fact it was Bateman but if I was offered a bet at even money, I would take it.


Archie
who got in touch with you to be a mod? did they email? pm? phone call?
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Dozer contacted me. I remember it well. He posted an email address in a thread and asked me to drop him a line and to use RED STAY-PA-LOR as the subject. (This related to the fact that the thread where this happened was at least partly about the movie Office Space. Remember Steven Root and the red stapler? Whatever.)

Anyway, I did contact him and the magic happened.



Archie
Do you have an AA sponsoreee? I guy or gal that can call you in the throes of some sort of crisis?

did/do you have a sponsor? or do you kinda just attend here and there. but not get fully immersed in the 12 steps?
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I have not been involved in 12 step meetings since the 90's. For the last decade I have gone to secular meetings where we do not have sponsors per se. Now many times I have given my number/email to newbies and said they can call me if they want - and sometimes they do. But there are no formal sponsor relationships.

Back when I was in the 12-step stuff I did have sponsors. Three that I can recall. One was temporary, one died, one was a real sponsor for several years. I am still in touch with him and play poker with him sometimes.

I also had a few sponsees but they always tended to drop off the face of the earth. I had no experiences as a sponsor that lasted more than a month.
 
at any of these venues

do people get "squirmy" or uptight if you mention gambling?

I mean most people have a negative view of it anyways.

but I wonder what the viewpoints of those with serious addictions and possible personal involvement with other "losing" gamblers tend to be?
 
wal66
Muddy, if you had a coupon for $500 off a round trip flight to Orlando, would you use it and come meet some of the Florida crew?
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are you part of the florida crew wally?

do you have a 500 dollar coupon like this?

Wally don't be a tease.......


IN OTHER NEWS....

Muddy if someone paid you 501 dollars to fly round trip to Chicago to meet the Chicago Crew, would you do it?


also, I'll pay for your drugs, alcohol, toothpaste, and pb & J.

Its like an Iwinyourmoney/parents kinda situation.

Food and shit is on me!!!!!
 
Archie
at any of these venues

do people get "squirmy" or uptight if you mention gambling?

I mean most people have a negative view of it anyways.

but I wonder what the viewpoints of those with serious addictions and possible personal involvement with other "losing" gamblers tend to be?
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You're talking about recovery meeting venues?

I don't talk about gambling during the meetings or with new people at all. Cross-addiction and replacement addictions are very real things and I don't want to be giving anyone the message that gambling is not only a possibility but a realistic way to solve a lot of problems. Once I get to know people better, what I do for a living is bound to come up. Some people find it curious but they basically just have to accept it. It's what I do.

One time there was a guy who had a bunch of questions about it. He started asking about how odds work and different stuff. He was a big sports fan and became very interested in parlays. Finally he asked if I could place a parlay bet for him. I had known him for awhile and I did it for him. Then he immediately tried to give me his next bet. I said, "No more bets for me."

He was a bit annoyed about that but I was not comfortable so the answer was no. He got over it.
 
Mudcat
You're talking about recovery meeting venues?

I don't talk about gambling during the meetings or with new people at all. Cross-addiction and replacement addictions are very real things and I don't want to be giving anyone the message that gambling is not only a possibility but a realistic way to solve a lot of problems. Once I get to know people better, what I do for a living is bound to come up. Some people find it curious but they basically just have to accept it. It's what I do.

One time there was a guy who had a bunch of questions about it. He started asking about how odds work and different stuff. He was a big sports fan and became very interested in parlays. Finally he asked if I could place a parlay bet for him. I had known him for awhile and I did it for him. Then he immediately tried to give me his next bet. I said, "No more bets for me."

He was a bit annoyed about that but I was not comfortable so the answer was no. He got over it.
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Yeah the recovery Venues

In grad school I took an addictions course, and part of our course was to attend 7 OPEN 12 step meetings throughout the semester. without saying we were there for "a class"

I really felt the kinship and acceptance in a tangible way at the meetings. I also recognized many borderline personality disorders/bipolar/codependence...

it was happy and depressing at the same time....

these people were real, raw, honest, regular blue collar gritty western pa people.

I always felt those groups were more welcoming and comfortable than any of the churches, synagogues, mosques or utilitariansm meetings I've visited.


its good you didn't bring up the gambling stuff
 
Archie
Muddy if someone paid you 501 dollars to fly round trip to Chicago to meet the Chicago Crew, would you do it?


also, I'll pay for your drugs, alcohol, toothpaste, and pb & J.

Its like an Iwinyourmoney/parents kinda situation.

Food and shit is on me!!!!!
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I'm not sure why I am suddenly being treated as a charity case but same deal as above: I have no objection in principle.

I could probably just drive to Chicago. I don't think it's all that far, is it?
 
also

just in case you make it big on jeopardy.


remember we are friends

and I have a sick mother that needs a kidney. I can donate, but I need 4,375 dollars to do it....

just putting it out there

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Mudcat
I'm not sure why I am suddenly being treated as a charity case but same deal as above: I have no objection in principle.

I could probably just drive to Chicago. I don't think it's all that far, is it?
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It's not charity Muddy. If and as I have always stressed IF I win the Durito Challenge I was going to spend or give the money to a charity or poster. Well I would like to chop the money in half and pay for some of the expenses for a couple posters to come to Florida to hang with Bread, Robyn BGS myself and whoever else is available.

Not playing favorites but you and Matty are 2 guys I would enjoy meeting and furthest away. Plommer is equally far and equally desirable but (A) Florida isn't Cuba, (B) Florida has laws for underage sex and (C) I want Robyn to feel safe.

I don't like to fly Muddy in fact I am terrified of flying so it would be better to put up some money to have people flown in.

Muddy, I'm no homo and even if I were I wouldn't fly my prey in.

P.S. if no poster wants to accept whole or partial winnings I plan on donating it to Durito's kid's college fund.
 
I think the only poster I ride at all any more is Casperwaits.

I only post here now and this is a pretty cool group. Unless I am forgetting something, I think I have a pretty complete acceptance of all our regulars.

Even Casper, I don't ride that much. I ignore most of his posting. (I really don't like that Casperwaits 24/7 thing under the gamelive logo BTW). But sometimes he is just such a big girl's blouse, I can't help but ride him.

I feel bad when I ride him. I understand his problems and I do have pity for him. But unfortunately when he gets going with his histrionics, it is like you're having an interesting conversation and some guy walks up and starts whacking off. It's hard to ignore. It's like, dude, I've asked you to settle down. Since it doesn't appear that you can, just go away.






I don't have a water bottle clippy thing on my bike. Sometimes if I have a longish ride, and I have my backpack, I will throw a water bottle in there. Usually though no. Most of my bike riding occurs as fairly short trips back and forth so thirst doesn't come into play.
 
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