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Who is going to be the next President of the United States?

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Boner_18
Someone tell me about hunter Biden emails, laptop? Whats the deal? #igetmynewsfromdegens
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I actually don't know the actual deal with this yet either, it's funny you brought it up. I just saw a tweet 15 mins ago about it, that made me think

I just assumed it was a super legit story about how Political schmucks are dirty and and political schmucks and rich kids can really do some dirty shit.

saw a tweet, satirizing the chain of custody of Hunter's laptops ect went down, and now I guess I'll have to decide if I care enough to find out if the story is going to be worth a large percentage of the voting population to actually find out real info on it or just get the social media headlines.

I think I'm finally at the point in politics for sports trolling, that i'm just gonna ride the social media headline wave

#nospoilersplease
 
Yea that's what made me wonder. I saw a story about the story... in other words the headline i saw was "How did they get the data with all the bad info". I kind of want to just know the bad info. A quick Google didn't reveal actual discernable facts so its all probably BS.
 
I saw another story about the story, something about FB and Twitter blocking of the original NY Posts article url from being able to be shared, and something something that proves the veratiy of the story, something something deep state, something something breakup big tech, and that's as far as I got
 
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Boner_18
The Biden tax plan is terrifying. Imagine earning 1000 dollars and only putting 380 in your pocket.
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Terrifying for ~1% of the population. And the 62% figure only applies to state taxes also being applied in high-tax states like California and New York. Fairly certain most of these hyper-rich folks can afford financial advisors to plan on where to live and what loopholes/writeoffs to take advantage of to cut that % down a bit.

Not saying I agree with the tax plan. Just saying I'd love to be in a position to be terrified of only clearing $152,000 (with no effort at all to reduce that rate) someday.
 
Just thought it was funny cause the media/celebrities seem to be very one-sided.

Makes everything look a bit sus.

Obviously Donny T is a dickbag. So not taking a side in this one.

I’ll admit I’m pleasantly surprised that SNL/Jim Carrey are making good fun off Biden.

Obviously they are all pulling for him, so seems counterproductive.
 
Vegas Dave
Terrifying for ~1% of the population. And the 62% figure only applies to state taxes also being applied in high-tax states like California and New York. Fairly certain most of these hyper-rich folks can afford financial advisors to plan on where to live and what loopholes/writeoffs to take advantage of to cut that % down a bit.

Not saying I agree with the tax plan. Just saying I'd love to be in a position to be terrified of only clearing $152,000 (with no effort at all to reduce that rate) someday.
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Good call Dave. No sense in caring about something until it impacts you!
 
Boner_18
Good call Dave. No sense in caring about something until it impacts you!
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Really?

I made solid counterpoints as to why the 62% wasn't as bad as it actually looked AND said I didn't say that I agreed with it and this is what you fire back. Alrighty.

I care about a lot of things that don't impact me, like families living in poverty. Which last I checked there are far far more of than the folks you are worried about that will be affected by this tax plan?

The vasttttttttt majority of people have no remote shot at a $400,000 annual income. None. Most people are set on a path from birth based on their families, race, neighborhoods, etc. Of course, some people with privilege blow it and some people with the odds stacked against them overcome it. But by and large the odds against someone born into the lower or middle class eventually making over $400,000 a year are essentially zero. These are statistical facts.

Now, you could be a smart money millionaire (don't go into debt, work hard, save up, etc)........ and you wouldn't be affected by this. This is $400,000 INCOME. If you have a healthy household income of $200,000 and pay off your house and save and invest and become a millionaire......... you have nothing to be terrified about.

No sense in caring about something until it impacts me? 1. Isn't that the point of voting/pulling for a candidate, based on how it affects us? Why do you want me to vote for the super wealthy when I'm never going to be super wealthy? 2. I do care. I empathize. It fucking sucks that people who earn a killer wage get taxed hard. But again, it isn't "terrifying". They have ways to reduce that rate. They have tons of non-income based assets that aren't affected. They are still clearing six figures.

"Terrifying" is not knowing where your family's next meal is coming from. Or if you are going to be able to afford rent next month. Or taking out MORE debt to get through one more day/week/month, knowing that you are digging a hole you will likely never get out of that has a great chance to destroy your marriage and your life. Not spending a little more time with your financial advisor trying to figure out how to optimize our tax benefits to reduce the hit we are taking on our gargantuan income.
 
Blitty
Just thought it was funny cause the media/celebrities seem to be very one-sided.

Makes everything look a bit sus.

Obviously Donny T is a dickbag. So not taking a side in this one.

I’ll admit I’m pleasantly surprised that SNL/Jim Carrey are making good fun off Biden.

Obviously they are all pulling for him, so seems counterproductive.
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Haha yeah you are good man. Hypocrisy always makes me laugh, and it's definitely not a blue or red thing. It's everyone.
 
I agree with you Dave. But what are the poor/mid level income people gonna get out of it? At least if they said we'll raise the rate on the rich to lower or eliminate taxes for any income up to a living wage. They won't do that. They will use the money for corporate contracts, prisons, police, bombs, war, bureaucracy where everybody gets paid but makes life tougher for average people, etc.
Eh, fuck these guys, rather the rich keep their money :hey:
 
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