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An isolated incident of bank error that resulted in you obtaining an extra $1K is absolutely, postively not theft.

Show me a link where someone got convicted of grand larceny because a bank made a one time error.
 
RageWizard
If you look, I'm willing to bet that they are convicted because of their own stupidity. Meaning that they make statements that are not in their best interest. If it happened to me, I feel confident that at worst I would just have to give the money back, because I know, you admit nothing, I usually don't really even pay attention when they do count it out, and they would have to prove to me that I actually did leave with the cash in a court of law with all of the parameters that it requires.
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I wouldn't be entirely surprised if they had cameras at the bank...
 
Shari91
The dollar values are more, but here are a few I found quickly. There are a lot of these stories online.

http://www.asylum.com/2009/01/14/would-you-keep-bank-error-loot-couple-who-did-arrested/

http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Bank-error-Man-charged-with-spending-money-accidentally-credited-to-account-851511.html
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These examples do not count. Please limit your proof to people who are actually given the cash by a teller, and then convicted of larceny or some other theft related offense.

As for cameras, I would think that would bolster my argument of not stealing since the teller is actually giving me the money, and unless i sit there like rain man on camera and visually look like I am counting it myself, I would be able to argue my points with reasonable doubt for the judge or jury.
 
RageWizard
These examples do not count. Please limit your proof to people who are actually given the cash by a teller, and then convicted of larceny or some other theft related offense.

As for cameras, I would think that would bolster my argument of not stealing since the teller is actually giving me the money, and unless i sit there like rain man on camera and visually look like I am counting it myself, I would be able to argue my points with reasonable doubt for the judge or jury.
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Is this one any different? Or do you think it matters when they find the error?

http://www.theeagle.com/police/Police--Two-jailed-in-theft-after-bank-teller-sent-cash-to-wron
 
MonkeyF0cker
Is this one any different? Or do you think it matters when they find the error?

http://www.theeagle.com/police/Police--Two-jailed-in-theft-after-bank-teller-sent-cash-to-wron
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Pretty close, but the article hasn't mentioned a conviction yet, and to get back to my earlier point, one of the defendants made statements that were not in their best interest. Also the teller knowingly sent the money to the wrong car, and was asking for the money back before the car left. It sounds like the scenario we have here, but when you look at the actions, it isn't. In all, these people are going to jail because the teller never said see ya, and the defendants are stupid for making statements that the bank can probably prove on video to be false. they said they never got any cash, but I bet there is video of the transaction and them looking at the cash.
 
theeagle,com article is a completely different scenario

You have two defendants who were asked by a bank teller to return a tube of money that was not intended for them and they subsequently refuse. Totally different than the situation that was presented at the beginning of this thread
 
Daft
Shari please also show where a state attorneys office proved mens rea (evil intent etc) when a customer did not report an extra $1,000 that was given to them
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http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=433615
http://www.semissourian.com/story/1620230.html

Here's one where a warrant was issued. I'm gonna guess that most people aren't stupid enough to try to fight a felony over $1000 (or $500 in this case) and simply give the money back before being prosecuted.
 
RageWizard
No charges and absolutely no convictions either.

The bank has tough sleding to prove that they have a theft on hand. There are plausible explainations for the missing cash that favor the defendant even if he is charged.
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You sure? And do you actually think the guy kept the money when the police were tearing apart his home? I'm pretty sure they found the error through the use of cameras.
 
Daft, I had to take a baby timeout but now I will resume my search according to the parameters you have provided. I knew this lexisone membership would come in handy at some point.

And for what it's worth, as I said in the original thread I'm not judging Brock either way. I'm not his wife nor his friend off the forum and I personally don't care enough about a total stranger on a gambling forum to pass judgment on him over something like this. I wouldn't have kept the money myself but at the end of the day, it's his choice and he has to live with whatever consequences come his way, if any.
 
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