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for discussion purposes Daft:
boards a little slow on Mondays

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/538898


Researchers looked into the risks from various sports to children and adolescents with a single kidney and found that cycling, not football as might be expected, poses the greatest risk [ 1 ]. However, these injuries in the setting even of contact sports rank far behind those to the brain, spinal cord, or heart, the authors say.

"We think that restriction of participation of a child or adolescent from contact or collision sports just because they only have a single kidney is probably unwarranted," Dr Matthew M Grinsell (University of Virginia, Charlottesville) concluded.

Their findings were presented at Renal Week 2005.
By far the most common cause of kidney injury was motor-vehicle accidents, ranging from 38% to 100% of kidney injuries, depending on the study, compared with 0% to 29% related to sports. One study published in 2003 estimated the incidence of sports-related kidney injury to be 6.9 injuries per million children per year [ 2 ]; catastrophic injuries requiring removal of the kidney were estimated at 0.4 injuries per million children per year.

However, compared with kidney injuries, a review of other studies suggested that sports of all kinds are far more likely to cause catastrophic injury to other organs that "we also only have one of," Grinsell pointed out, including the brain, spinal cord, and heart?specifically commotio cordis, the abrupt stop of the heart after blunt trauma such as being hit by a baseball in the chest.
 
thanks for particpating:shakeit:
never said it was the same as baseball. just said theres also risk w/ baseball along with things kids do everyday.

I dont argue I love football and would like him to play.... but theres just as much chance of freak accidents in other sports, and also everyday living

Yes you did :)
 
http://hscweb3.hsc.usf.edu/health/now/?p=193

The following percentages of athletes ages 5 to 14 have been injured playing their respective sports:

– 28% of football players
– 25% of baseball players
– 22% of soccer players
– 15% of basketball players
– 12% of softball players

looks like baseball is the 2nd most dangerous sport?

severity of injuries needs to be looked at too

in HS and college, almost every year the highest rate of injury is in.................. WOMEN'S CROSS-COUNTRY.... foken shin splints and side stitches count!!!
 
Since everyone has an opinion.

Miley, you obviously love your son and anyone can appreciate your wanting him to be happy and enjoy his life. I can understand there is maybe a fear of being over-protective and potentially making him soft, or miss out on activities that his friends are enjoying.

Obviously he could fall down a set of stairs and get hurt or fall off his bike and suffer a critical accident. I can also see where a doctor might be overly caucious but is it really worth the risk?

I mean it's not like someone telling you Manning was out all night drinking and twisted his ankle getting out of his car so don't bet the Colt's today.

We all hear heart warming triumphant stories of kids who overcame serious threats or disabilities and accomplished something pretty amazing and they are truly wonderful stories but I imagine there are plenty of stories out there where it didn't workout so well.

I'm not a parent so I can't answer for you but I chimed in because I like a good debate.
 
Alonzo Mourning played basketball with one kidney. I certainly wouldn't put him in any contact sports like hockey or football. I would think basketball and baseball would be the best options if he really wanted to play.


mentioned Sean Elliot and Alonzo... but I think the issue is completely different when you as a PARENT are making a decision for your child.....

in this case.... I feel 95% sure I'd say.... HELL NO YOU ARE NOT PLAYING FOOTBALL...... (Hell I might not let my children play regardless, just due to all the Brain stuff)

when my son is 18 he can do what he wants, its his body.

Mourning and Elliot were grown men, making a decision to continue their Career where they got paid multi-millions.

an 8 year boy is a bit different




Now I love Peanut Butter.

but If I have a child that is alergic to PB and the doc says it could kill them....

I'm not gonna let my child eat PB&J because his older brother is eating it... and I enjoy eating it...

I'll err on the side of caution
 
not that yall will read this but:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/118/3/1019.full.pdf

basically severe trauma via head/neck/heart injuries far out ways any kidney injuries whether single kidney or normal.
yet doctors dont recommend that perfectly healthy kids not play contact sports although there is a higher risk of death/paralysis associated with playing than there is of kidney injuries.


football has only accounted for 1 nephrectomy although it was due to hypertension 5 yrs after the injury
most common nephrectomys were from cycling, sking, horseback riding and soccer
 
I don't have any numbers to back this up, so it could easily be bullshit but I've been told by a few people that golf has the highest ROI in terms of getting jobs, scholarships, etc.

I dunno, golf costs a ton. Especially if you are good at it. My friend plays on tour and growing up he played in all the junior tournaments and stuff and that meant playing all over the country every summer, flights, hotels, rental cars. And scholarships are weak, 1 or 2 full scholarships per div I school usually.
 
I dunno, golf costs a ton. Especially if you are good at it. My friend plays on tour and growing up he played in all the junior tournaments and stuff and that meant playing all over the country every summer, flights, hotels, rental cars. And scholarships are weak, 1 or 2 full scholarships per div I school usually.

the more i think about it i think the statements actually pertained to daughters and the pool size vs. # of scholarships/jobs. depends a lot on the parent too imo. a slow, tall unathletic guy has a much better chance of his kid having a non -100% ROI in golf than football. EV vs EG and all your points are valid so ido prolly shoulda not posted anything in the first place.
 
NCAA D1 schools have 4.5 scholarships in golf and 3.5 in D2

so most D1 golfers are playing on partial scholarships or no scholarships as splitting 4.5 scholarships for an entire golf team is not much.

luckily most golfers are white, smart, and/or rich.... so its not that big of a deal