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What is the NHL record for consecutive games with points scored?

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kato
thanks matty and plommer-

why would the americans like a slower pace?
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The rule changes were to create a quicker pace and to increase goals - high scoring games would attract Americans.

Back in the day there was alot of holding, clutching and grabbing which slowed the game down and made for less scoring chances.
Now the refs call penalties for holding if you attempt to slow the puck carrier down by grabbing on or something similar.

PS: Matty, fuck off.
 
betplom
The rule changes were to create a quicker pace and to increase goals - high scoring games would attract Americans.

Back in the day there was alot of holding, clutching and grabbing which slowed the game down and made for less scoring chances.
Now the refs call penalties for holding if you attempt to slow the puck carrier down by grabbing on or something similar.

PS: Matty, fuck off.
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did the rule changes backfire? in the thread it stated that the totals decreased.
 
Matty
It's all Jacques Lemaire's fault. (his "trap" system allowed crappy teams to neutralize superior offenses)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Lemaire


Lemaire is known for his unorthodox coaching style for several reasons: first, he prefers a defensive-minded system, often using a strategy called the neutral zone trap,[4]. Second, Lemaire rarely uses permanent lines preferring to use mixed line combinations during games. Lemaire is also regarded as one of the best teaching coaches - developing young players while working well with veterans. However his emphasis on "defense first" has often been controversial, both inside and outside the dressing room. This perhaps, has led to some conflict with star players like Marian Gaborik (formerly with the Wild) and media criticism. An example was provided by Terry Frei of ESPN.com in an article posted on August 4, 2008:

He [Lemaire] helped drag down the entertainment quotient in this league, and despite all the talk about the Wild being a skating team that uses speed and pounces on turnovers, not all the elements of the trap have disappeared from Minnesota's game. You'd think the State of Hockey is going to tire of that at some point, especially if the Wild slide this season and it drives Marian Gaborik away next summer.[5]
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this is the major point. It's much easier to bog down play than to create great play.

kato, American's are viewed as idiots who can't follow the puck and only like the roughness, fighting side of hockey
Plommer, I like shootouts, although I'm amazed at how pathetic the players are at them most of the time. So many games go to so, you'd think these guys could do better, get more creative with their attempts.
I agree all games should be worth 2 points. You look at the standings and it seems everyone has a winning record.
 
reno cool
this is the major point. It's much easier to bog down play than to create great play.

kato, American's are viewed as idiots who can't follow the puck and only like the roughness, fighting side of hockey
Plommer, I like shootouts, although I'm amazed at how pathetic the players are at them most of the time. So many games go to so, you'd think these guys could do better, get more creative with their attempts.
I agree all games should be worth 2 points. You look at the standings and it seems everyone has a winning record.
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v. accurate statement.
 
you have to add in the fact that goalie pad sizes have increased immensely over the years. and hell, way back in the day didn't goalies play without masks or helmets? so kids growing up in the 60's or 70's that became goalies a decade came from a very small gene pool of extremely crazy and wreckless bunch. Many would be talented goalies of that era said.... FUCK THIS i'll just skate around and get hit in the teeth once every 10 games instead of 10 times every 1 game.
 
pretty much kato.

In the 80's with Gretzky and then Europeans the NHL game became much faster, and more creative. So some inferior teams found a way to counteract the skill players by playing the trap, others followed suit.

It's kind of like the shitty fighters found they can do jujitsu and now everything is a wrestling match.

The goalie position has radically changed too. That's a big factor. Goalie used to be position for people who couldn't play :grin:
 
why do these franchises even have teams?

Nashville Predators Bridgestone Arena 41 14,979 614,143 87.5%
Florida Panthers BankAtlantic Center 40 15,146 605,863 78.7%
Atlanta Thrashers Philips Arena 41 13,607 557,897 73.4%
New York Islanders Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum 41 12,735 522,168 78.1%
Phoenix Coyotes Jobing.com Arena 41 11,989 491,558 68.5%
 
Archie
when did the huge influx of soviet, nordic and european players start to happen?
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The Soviet players came in '89. The Stastny brothers and others were around in the early 80's. Kurri of course played with Gretzky.

the huge influx was late 80's, early 90's.

The Devil's swept the superior Red Wings in what? 94, 95... so we had a few good years
 
I'm just thinking out loud, but I think the many of the NHL records that were set in and before the 80's were very watered down, as the talent pool was miniscule.

so a few freaks of nature could come along, like Gretsky, Orr, Howe, Mario ect and they dominant in that time period. because they were playing with what would essentially be AHL bench players today.

when the talent pool extends due to geographical expansion, and more kids getting into the sport, due to television exposure. the talent differential/gap between the "freaks" like gretsky vs the rest of the league and "freaks" like Ovechkin and the rest of the league is shrunk in a huge way.

look at it this way. Do you really think that Lebron wouldn't dominate and score 40 a game vs guys like Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale, Adrian Dantley, James Worthy, Bernard King ect...

how would a Adrian Peterson fare, running a 4.4 vs d-line man that barely weighed more than him back in the day?

its tough to compare eras.... and I feel the NHL has matured very quickly over the past 25 years, so that you can't compare 1985 to 2010 without alot of discussion
 
Archie
I'm just thinking out loud, but I think the many of the NHL records that were set in and before the 80's were very watered down, as the talent pool was miniscule.

so a few freaks of nature could come along, like Gretsky, Orr, Howe, Mario ect and they dominant in that time period. because they were playing with what would essentially be AHL bench players today.

when the talent pool extends due to geographical expansion, and more kids getting into the sport, due to television exposure. the talent differential/gap between the "freaks" like gretsky vs the rest of the league and "freaks" like Ovechkin and the rest of the league is shrunk in a huge way.

look at it this way. Do you really think that Lebron wouldn't dominate and score 40 a game vs guys like Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale, Adrian Dantley, James Worthy, Bernard King ect...

how would a Adrian Peterson fare, running a 4.4 vs d-line man that barely weighed more than him back in the day?

its tough to compare eras.... and I feel the NHL has matured very quickly over the past 25 years, so that you can't compare 1985 to 2010 without alot of discussion
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good points archie.

nba team scoring has gone down considerably since the 80's. but, so has skill set imo. very few players can hit a jumper consistently like the past. i do not know if that holds true in hockey. it seems that once physical evolution happens the skill set weakens (now, this may not be the case in the nfl, hard to say for mlb) thoughts?
 
hmm, I think there are more guys that can knock down a 25 footer today then back then, because back then you didn't get 3 points for it.

I do think in the NBA that you don't see 2 gaurds hit the 15 footer as much, but that is because the 4's and 5's hit the 15 footers now... hell even 7 footers are hitting 3 pointers now.

when did 7 footers have "skills" like they have now in the NBA.

the size, speed, athleticism of NBA and NFL players today is ridiculous vs what it used to be.

Hell George Mikan was a dominate center back in the day in the NBA, they changed rules due to him.

today Lebron is like any inch shorter than him, and would run circles around the dude
 
Archie
hmm, I think there are more guys that can knock down a 25 footer today then back then, because back then you didn't get 3 points for it.

I do think in the NBA that you don't see 2 gaurds hit the 15 footer as much, but that is because the 4's and 5's hit the 15 footers now... hell even 7 footers are hitting 3 pointers now.

when did 7 footers have "skills" like they have now in the NBA.

the size, speed, athleticism of NBA and NFL players today is ridiculous vs what it used to be.

Hell George Mikan was a dominate center back in the day in the NBA, they changed rules due to him.

today Lebron is like any inch shorter than him, and would run circles around the dude
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all true points. maybe it is the style of offense pat v present. the iso offense of todays game versus the game of past. look at the ucla offense run by the jazz. however - now your point is proven. because the jazz style fails with a dynamic iso player (kobe/jordan)
 
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