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kato

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me personally, i would by a hybrid and i am going to be in the market for a new car by the end of this year. however, it seems that the hybrid vs. normal is a moot point with a lot of new autos getting the same gas mileage. it seems that most of the benefit of owning a hybrid is from city driving, where most of my driving is freeway based.

the price for the volt, made by GM came out today


Chevy Volt to cost $41,000 before rebates
A federal tax credit and state rebate would bring the electric car's price to $28,500 for Californians. Volt's main rival, the Nissan Leaf, will start at $32,780 before subsidies. Both go on sale later this year.

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-autos-volt-20100727,0,7059556.story

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as always i value your opinion, well except a few of you
 
Visually kato, the Volt is a no-brainer for me.

I'm also a Chevy guy so I'm biased a bit I guess.

kato where are the door handles for the rear doors on the Volt?

what would the total cost of the Volt be to Floridians after rebates etc?
 
Matt Rain
It's worth noting that the Volt doesn't look anywhere close to the picture above, but it's still a lot more attractive than the Nissan lunchbox:

http://www.chevrolet.com/pages/open/default/future/volt.do

Seems expensive for what it is, but I guess that buying one of these supports further development of hybrid/electric models.

I dunno.
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damn you matty, that is the problem with using google images

what a change in styling from concept to actual

boo
 
i agree, looks great

but

As for fuel economy, the HS 250h has an EPA fuel economy estimate of 35 mpg in combined driving. This is significantly less than the Prius' combined rating of 50 mpg, but it's still the highest of any luxury-branded hybrid vehicle.

is it worth it?
 
I drive a 3 cyl 1L gas engine car to commute to work. It does 40 miles a gallon and it costed less than 14K. There is no reason in spending 30K or more to buy electric. You will never get your money back. Also replacing or repairing the battery or motor will cost you thousands and in 10 years the technology they use now will be obsolete.
 
I think that they totally missed the boat when createing hybrids, and now that they are going all electric, they are doing the same. The beaty about going electric is the reduction of moving parts, and simplicity of the system. I will not be buying a hybrid unless the engine is there to generate electricity only, and the power is produced by etiher 2 motor/ generators, or 4 motor / generators located right at the wheel. The same goes for electric. From what I see from the volt is 1 centrally located motor with a gearbox transmission type of thing. This is not neccessary. Electric motors offer outstanding torque off the line, and if they employ regenerative braking, a technology that has been used in trains for around 40 years, they can lengthen the milage and reduce cost of recharging. With the computer technology of today, they could do this, but have refused to why. My former company has invested millions in new drive shaft designs for electric cars, again not needed. If the world ever comes up with a decent battery, or quick recharging system to be used at a fueling station, they auto industry will be fucked from the people who have experience with electric motors.

I say hold off and if you really want a hybrid, get a volkwagen turbo desiel hybrid.
 
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