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Archie
Daffy, pitchers are washed up at age 32-37. Especially lefties

better to put money and resources into proven comidities of Cuban players on drugs and fat catchers named Jesus
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Yeah. No way a pitcher in his mid-thirties loses anything. It has NEVER happened before. Not even when his numbers have been declining for several years already.

It's fun talking baseball with a bunch of fanboys.
 
now we are talking NEVER happened?

no international signing has ever sucked and not cut it at the major league level. no that's NEVER happened

I guess we are equal in using the NULL hypothesis theory in arguing against the apples and oranges

cuban "fanboy" failures
 
absolute sarcasm at an absolute

I think I implied that its NOT an absolute that a 33 year old pitcher is gonna decline.

I'm not a fan of Buehrle or Miami.

i'm not sold on Cespedes at all.

I think you pretty much know what you will get with Buehrle, other than an expected bump in performance when he faces NL East hitters

but I will be rooting for him and the A's

I think i've disclosed all pertinent info
 
Archie
absolute sarcasm at an absolute

I think I implied that its NOT an absolute that a 33 year old pitcher is gonna decline.

I'm not a fan of Buehrle or Miami.

i'm not sold on Cespedes at all.

I think you pretty much know what you will get with Buehrle, other than an expected bump in performance when he faces NL East hitters

but I will be rooting for him and the A's

I think i've disclosed all pertinent info
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You might want to look at some statistics. That's already begun.

And THAT is an absolute.
 
tough to follow the uber sarcastic teen-age girl style of arguing

are we talking the absolutes again or back to Buehrle, you keep jumping.


you implied I was the one that made the absolute statement. I showed you the only absolute I implied "not all pitchers decline at 33"

and you responded by saying something about stats

I asked for the stats.

let me just make it really clear for you

a) if you think that absolutely no pitchers have or will gotten better after age 32 I'd LOVE to see those stats.

b) if you are only talking about Hurly Buehrle, I'd think its debatable, and i'm sure we could present stats to say he is past his prime and stats to show he's still clicking on pretty much all cylinders. I'd still be interested for the sake of learning, which stats you look at most in that regard. stuff like FIP? Whip? k/9?

That would be a worthwhile baseball discussion. and if I had to put $ on him outperforming his 2011 self I'd take the YES.

I'm only in this thread for the SABR-pussy, fanboy buttholes and respectful clear discussion.
 
Archie
tough to follow the uber sarcastic teen-age girl style of arguing

are we talking the absolutes again or back to Buehrle, you keep jumping.


you implied I was the one that made the absolute statement. I showed you the only absolute I implied "not all pitchers decline at 33"

and you responded by saying something about stats

I asked for the stats.

let me just make it really clear for you

a) if you think that absolutely no pitchers have or will gotten better after age 32 I'd LOVE to see those stats.

b) if you are only talking about Hurly Buehrle, I'd think its debatable, and i'm sure we could present stats to say he is past his prime and stats to show he's still clicking on pretty much all cylinders. I'd still be interested for the sake of learning, which stats you look at most in that regard. stuff like FIP? Whip? k/9?

That would be a worthwhile baseball discussion. and if I had to put $ on him outperforming his 2011 self I'd take the YES.

I'm only in this thread for the SABR-pussy, fanboy buttholes and respectful clear discussion.
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Obviously. Your initial response could do nothing but elicit both respectful and clear discussion. It certainly wasn't YOUR typical "uber sarcastic teen-age girl style of arguing."

You make me want to help you SO much. For some reason (and I can't pinpoint why), I don't really feel like it.

Maybe you could run some numbers yourself. Performance and age aren't highly correlated or anything.
 
I feel like alot of pitchers turn the corner at age 30-35, especially soft tossing lefties that don't miss alot of bats to begin with.

looking at Buehrle, I'd say he's still pretty much pitching at his career level with very little decline, hell even a slight improvement.

what does the new Miami ball park look like for right handed hitters?
 
Pretty stupid to even argue about the Marlins with you. You're not biased or anything.

But Josh Johnson... huge question mark. How does he return from surgery?

Hanley Ramirez... another subpar year or not?

JJ Reyes... how many days is he on the DL this year?

Mark Buehrle... covered.

Mike Stanton... might be all they have again this year.

Ozzie Guillen... nutjob. Do the players rally behind him? They seemed to get real tired of his antics in Chicago.
 
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