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Tyvm Rogie. Will thoroughly look into everything. IAG told me you can send to btc w paypal and use Cash App so that will likely me my route.

Vegas Dave, trust me I know it's swingy as fuck that's I'm playing $30 buy ins man. The donks are bad enough at THAT level to make it work. The chat is like a bunch of college humor jokes and shit. I think that's whom late at night I am likely playing against in good part.

But I do agree that it's probably just a good start. In Cleveland one of my best poker friends was awesome at NL, then crushed PLO so I was likely then I can do that if he can.

I was wrong, lol. But if you are THAT good at PLO for big money? Go play at Jack Casino and get REAL paid.

But if you - a person that has MUCH deeper poker knowledge than me, has been doing that, than I should have been doing just that all along man.

Once yet again I thank you so much for helping to lead me to the right, profitable direction man.

Do you use a HUD? Do you only play at night, so as to target juicy games? Do you label fish with notes on their plays?
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Yes notes are very important. Most profitable players are playing correct preflop ranges and only getting big money into the pot when they have monster hands or draws. Label these people red.

Then the goofballs that raise every single pot and bluff wayyyyy too much both preflop and postflop, label green. In both cases you can give a few examples in your notes, ie "only pots with the nuts" or "called a 4-bet pot with A J 7 3 single suited lol".

One thing to be wary of is that your notes always need to be adjusted. I've seen people play like idiots one night and then really well another. Hell, from reading this thread, seems like you might be one of those folks haha that has a tendency to blast off out of boredom/being drunk whatever but on a different night would be playing very solid. SO YES you want to pick some exploitative spots ie call a little lighter than you would against a tight player or raise a wider range preflop since you know they'll call with trash, BUT still play good fundamentals. Don't go so far off of your game trying to exploit that you yourself are playing bad now.

Also do not get in the habit of hero-calling or being stubborn against the fuckers you label red. They always have it. Value-towning is their game. IF they actually happen to be bluffing that one time out of 718, good for them. Don't pay off nits. Try to take small pots of them and gtfo when they push back if you don't have the goods.

Don't use a HUD. I'm sure they are very profitable to learn, I just haven't bothered. Don't play often enough to justify deep study or tool purchasing, plus like staying sharp on my own in case HUDs get banned (as they should). But a good investment if you are taking online poker seriously.

And yeah night time generally is the best for drunken gamblers hopping on to blast off PLO stacks. But that's also when you have the longest waiting lists. I like to multitable so I have plenty of action going on and don't feel like I need to force anything out of boredom.
 
So many good points. Funny you said label green and red with the notes adjustments, that's exactly what I do.

Very good point about people who gear change from one night to another. Such a weird move but I guess I get it.

You are right about that being my tendency, and it'll get you fucked in NL but the whole trick here is, if someone scoops up a $4 pot from me and I look like a jackass I don't care because they then open up their range for when I have it, and I get that $30.

Sounds good on no HUD.

So I really tried to look for a site besides ACR (while I wait out the 14 day hold) whom won't take my cards to play at (I'm in PA) that I can sign up for in addition to Stars. One with good low limit PLO traffic. Came up blank so far.

You got any you think I should look into?
 
Global Poker is an option. Their software is shit. But due to a goofy loophole they are legal in the States so it's very easy to get money and off the site.

Way it works is you go to the cashier and buy "Gold Coins" which are play coins that are worthless. But then the site gives you "free sweepstakes coins" for the same amount you deposited. So for example you buy 100,000 gold coins for 20 dollars and you get "20 sweeps coins" for free.

Now the 20 sweep coins can be used to play cash games or tournaments. The loophole lets them count it like sitting down at a cash table and playing with sweep coins is like entering a sweepstakes or some bullshit lol.

It's a little confusing but functions the same as regular cash poker. You will have to verify account to get withdrawals tho (ID, bank statement etc) so if you don't want to deal with all that it may not be right for you.
 
Vegas Dave
Yes notes are very important. Most profitable players are playing correct preflop ranges and only getting big money into the pot when they have monster hands or draws. Label these people red.

Then the goofballs that raise every single pot and bluff wayyyyy too much both preflop and postflop, label green. In both cases you can give a few examples in your notes, ie "only pots with the nuts" or "called a 4-bet pot with A J 7 3 single suited lol".

One thing to be wary of is that your notes always need to be adjusted. I've seen people play like idiots one night and then really well another. Hell, from reading this thread, seems like you might be one of those folks haha that has a tendency to blast off out of boredom/being drunk whatever but on a different night would be playing very solid. SO YES you want to pick some exploitative spots ie call a little lighter than you would against a tight player or raise a wider range preflop since you know they'll call with trash, BUT still play good fundamentals. Don't go so far off of your game trying to exploit that you yourself are playing bad now.

Also do not get in the habit of hero-calling or being stubborn against the fuckers you label red. They always have it. Value-towning is their game. IF they actually happen to be bluffing that one time out of 718, good for them. Don't pay off nits. Try to take small pots of them and gtfo when they push back if you don't have the goods.

Don't use a HUD. I'm sure they are very profitable to learn, I just haven't bothered. Don't play often enough to justify deep study or tool purchasing, plus like staying sharp on my own in case HUDs get banned (as they should). But a good investment if you are taking online poker seriously.

And yeah night time generally is the best for drunken gamblers hopping on to blast off PLO stacks. But that's also when you have the longest waiting lists. I like to multitable so I have plenty of action going on and don't feel like I need to force anything out of boredom.
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Sorry…I’m not sure if I was clear. You can buy bitcoin on PayPal, but you can’t send it from there. I think cash app allows you to buy it and send it, but not positive. Otherwise you will have to find a normal exchange/wallet probably.
 
Dave, what do you think of this line.

I'm DNegs.

PokerStars Hand #229088684185: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.15/$0.30 USD) - 2021/08/22 21:18:31 ET
Table 'Aegle' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: ajpiv ($56.41 in chips)
Seat 3: krupnugz24 ($30 in chips)
Seat 5: neagranufan17 ($24 in chips)
Seat 6: jaco1900 ($69.07 in chips)
krupnugz24: posts small blind $0.15
neagranufan17: posts big blind $0.30
dolphin243: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to neagranufan17 [Kc 2s 6d Ad]
jaco1900: raises $0.60 to $0.90
ajpiv: calls $0.90
krupnugz24: folds
neagranufan17: calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [4d 2d 5c]
neagranufan17: checks
jaco1900: bets $1.20
ajpiv: calls $1.20
neagranufan17: raises $6.31 to $7.51
jaco1900: raises $6.31 to $13.82
ajpiv: folds
neagranufan17: raises $9.28 to $23.10 and is all-in
jaco1900: calls $9.28
*** TURN *** [4d 2d 5c] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [4d 2d 5c 8c] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
neagranufan17: shows [Kc 2s 6d Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
jaco1900: shows [5s Kh As 3d] (a straight, Ace to Five)
neagranufan17 collected $49.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.25 | Rake $1
Board [4d 2d 5c 8c 8d]
Seat 2: ajpiv (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: krupnugz24 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: neagranufan17 (big blind) showed [Kc 2s 6d Ad] and won ($49.25) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: jaco1900 showed [5s Kh As 3d] and lost with a straight, Ace to Five
 
Holy shit.

Let's give it a shot, I say.

I'm weird about only Marine Bands. Been playing since I was 16 on and off, should be MUCH better imo.

But it's such a good vent because it's such a vocal instrument.

Thank you, lol.

I'm 3 tabling as we speak and that compliment took the edge off a bit.
 
Dave, fold trip Aces here?

PokerStars Hand #229090950798: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.15/$0.30 USD) - 2021/08/22 22:36:49 ET
Table 'Corvus' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mplayer115 ($11.24 in chips)
Seat 2: jaco1900 ($59.99 in chips)
Seat 3: yllwmtrcstr215 ($35.80 in chips)
Seat 4: KimchiNinja77 ($21.21 in chips)
Seat 5: neagranufan17 ($40.68 in chips)
Seat 6: TheFatfish26 ($19.86 in chips)
TheFatfish26: posts small blind $0.15
mplayer115: posts big blind $0.30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to neagranufan17 [Ad 2h Ac 2s]
jaco1900: folds
yllwmtrcstr215: folds
KimchiNinja77: folds
neagranufan17: raises $0.75 to $1.05
TheFatfish26: calls $0.90
mplayer115: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Th As 3s]
TheFatfish26: checks
mplayer115: checks
neagranufan17: bets $2.99
TheFatfish26: calls $2.99
mplayer115: folds
*** TURN *** [Th As 3s] [Kh]
TheFatfish26: checks
neagranufan17: bets $8.67
TheFatfish26: raises $7.15 to $15.82 and is all-in
neagranufan17: calls $7.15
*** RIVER *** [Th As 3s Kh] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TheFatfish26: shows [Qc Js 6h Ks] (a flush, Ace high)
neagranufan17: shows [Ad 2h Ac 2s] (three of a kind, Aces)
TheFatfish26 collected $38.77 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40.77 | Rake $2
Board [Th As 3s Kh 4s]
Seat 1: mplayer115 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: jaco1900 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: yllwmtrcstr215 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: KimchiNinja77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: neagranufan17 (button) showed [Ad 2h Ac 2s] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: TheFatfish26 (small blind) showed [Qc Js 6h Ks] and won ($38.77) with a flush, Ace high

Taking a good breather after that.

Still up $41.34 after a short sesh vs almost all sharks.

I'll take it, clean up my room and look for fish later, lol.

That brings us to $247.25 profit in 4 documented days of doing this crazy shit.

Not bad for those stakes.

But that one did piss me off a little.

NOTILT

Also that one I asked you about before? I was roughly 49% when going all in hyper aggro chasing. I say arguably a bad play but.....often these players are MUCH worse than 51% there. I'll value you're opinion more than mine on that one.
 
The lesson to be learned here is:

DON'T MISS PEAK HOURS IF YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A PRO.

Sure I won again but I should have won at least $150 last night in the fish fest. But nah, I had to drink 20 beers and pass out for a day.

Meh.

It's alright though.

#steam

What's cool though is:

I'm still beating the best players at tht level.

And THAT'S pretty fucking encouraging.

Seriously though - hey Steve, when ya gonna catch the fish again? 11 PM LAST NIGHT? THIS IS SUNDAY NIGHT MAN. PEOPLE/DONKS/NON PROS/HAVE JOBS AND SLEEP. DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?

Yah, go grab your time machine, PRO.
 
Both spots seem very standard. Check/pot/get it in with the nut flush draw and extra equity is good. Don't want to play all your naked nut flush draws that aggro but with flopped pair and inside straight draw we have plenty of equity to GII.

Aces yeah we just get stacked here. Like I said the more PLO you play the more you are going to get stacked in standard pots.
 
Vegas Dave
Both spots seem very standard. Check/pot/get it in with the nut flush draw and extra equity is good. Don't want to play all your naked nut flush draws that aggro but with flopped pair and inside straight draw we have plenty of equity to GII.

Aces yeah we just get stacked here. Like I said the more PLO you play the more you are going to get stacked in standard pots.
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Right, also we have the average players at that level at that level which much worse hands than those guys.

So, not to be redundant, but I need to not miss peak hours if I'm taking this seriously. That's when guys with much worse hands are there on those.

Thank you though. Honestly? I don't believe in getting it in 1% short, lol.

That's me. Numbers guy, hard on myself and all that.

Again appreciated man.
 
stevek
Right, also we have the average players at that level at that level which much worse hands than those guys.

So, not to be redundant, but I need to not miss peak hours if I'm taking this seriously. That's when guys with much worse hands are there on those.

Thank you though. Honestly? I don't believe in getting it in 1% short, lol.

That's me. Numbers guy, hard on myself and all that.

Again appreciated man.
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What do you mean by this? That if you ever get it in behind you were wrong? That's a terrible and very incorrect mindset lol.
 
I do believe that. It's all about numbers man, if you are a cash pro. Sure I went hyper aggro there, especially in the first spot.

Dude the whole thing is a trap, to lead them to getting it in at a less percentage than myself. I am that good with numbers (usually).

The job to me is -

Get it in good. To me that is the very definition of being good as cash gaming. You got it in good and they won a coinflip? Ok, you did your job.

Everytime I don't get it in good is logged as a mistake, like what happened there.

How would that ever be wrong?
 
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