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SBR Sponsor Bet Islands steals over a million dollars from players

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Yeah, Plommer I have been reading Sam's thread which has plenty of information both good and what appears to be fabricated. Reading that thread is what led me to this post actually. There appears to be everything in that one thread from information to misinformation to complete conjecture.

EMike, I hadn't seen that deposits report yet.

This thing is just so incredible to try and follow. You know there is guilt and more than with just that Jon Greta guy. You also know it's highly unlikely the whole truth will ever be revealed. The only thing that seems to be for certain is a lot of players got fok;d and will never recover what was stolen from them in this ordeal.
 
wal66
EMike, I hadn't seen that deposits report yet.

This thing is just so incredible to try and follow. You know there is guilt and more than with just that Jon Greta guy. You also know it's highly unlikely the whole truth will ever be revealed. The only thing that seems to be for certain is a lot of players got fok;d and will never recover what was stolen from them in this ordeal.
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For what it's worth, I've followed it from the start and have now reached the point of exhaustion, haven't hardly even looked at it today, and I suspect a lot of people feel that way, it's kinda run its course for shock value.

Sure some of the mud will stick but they will be back to pretty much business as usual within two or three days, if not sooner.
 
What I don't understand is not why "sharps" were there taking advantage of the book or how "sharps" had so such high balances on the sheet but why that book or any book with such player friendly advantages offered would allow "sharps" as players. Even if you didn't know who they were when they signed up surely anyone with any intelligence at all could tell very early on that certain players were not the clientele they wanted at their shop and would have booted them.

With that in mind though it doesn't make sense to me that anyone with any experience in sportsbooks or gambling period would position themselves as "the bank" with such +EV options. I mean you could get away with that with guys like me but you would have to know you were in a losing proposition with anyone with any knowledge at all about edge or even a working understanding of math beyond 2+2=4.
 
wal66
What I don't understand is not why "sharps" were there taking advantage of the book or how "sharps" had so such high balances on the sheet but why that book or any book with such player friendly advantages offered would allow "sharps" as players. Even if you didn't know who they were when they signed up surely anyone with any intelligence at all could tell very early on that certain players were not the clientele they wanted at their shop and would have booted them.

With that in mind though it doesn't make sense to me that anyone with any experience in sportsbooks or gambling period would position themselves as "the bank" with such +EV options. I mean you could get away with that with guys like me but you would have to know you were in a losing proposition with anyone with any knowledge at all about edge or even a working understanding of math beyond 2+2=4.
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Totally agree, but sometimes it's as easy as telling the money guy: 'It's a book, you can't lose.'

If the guy putting up the money does nothing more than put up the money he was at the mercy of 'Jon' as to what he actually knew.

The fact he chose 'Jon' to run it in the first place should give you some indication of his business acumen, irrespective of his wealth.
 
EnglishMike
Sure some of the mud will stick but they will be back to pretty much business as usual within two or three days, if not sooner.
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To that point if you owned a reputable (as reputable as offshore goes) book would you sink advertising dollars into a sportsbook review "watchdog" site or even a forum period that had the stench of impropriety attached to it? So business as usual could change unless in the end SBR is cleared of any and all wrong doing and that at least in part seems illogical.

I might be wrong in how others would view this though.
 
wal66
To that point if you owned a reputable (as reputable as offshore goes) book would you sink advertising dollars into a sportsbook review "watchdog" site or even a forum period that had the stench of impropriety attached to it? So business as usual could change unless in the end SBR is cleared of any and all wrong doing and that at least in part seems illogical.

I might be wrong in how others would view this though.
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Maybe, maybe not. They're pretty much out of offshores to shill so their business plan will have to change and to be fair to John, he's made quite a success of it so far, so who knows what he'll come up with, but it's obvious they will struggle to promote any book with any conviction, particuarly now because they will be under the spotlight with regard to shilling.
 
wal66
I looked all over but have yet to find the threats to Oksana. Maybe it or they were deleted. I don't understand how threats over there would make her say adios to GameLive though.
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I assume she took offence to post 444.

I assumed he was just pulling her chain.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that SBR wouldn't want her posting here, so maybe she was looking for a reason, who knows?
 
choo
like the collapse of 'enron' itself or the collapse of tower 7?

:bee:
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Enron the company. You know where thousands of employees lost there life savings. At least there some people had the guts to off themselves and the ones who didn't went to jail. But in the offshore industry is business as usual. Lets let the dust settle and then we move on to the next scam.
 
EnglishMike
I assume she took offence to post 444.

I assumed he was just pulling her chain.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that SBR wouldn't want her posting here, so maybe she was looking for a reason, who knows?
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I wasn't pulling her chain. I was telling her to go in hiding and shut up. There is nothing for her to gain by defending SBR's actions or non-actions to this matter whether she works there or not. The more she talks the more she pisses off the ones who lost their money at BI. There are a lot of crazies in this world.
 
She was asking for everyone who had her personal info to be banned. :dunno:

She does tend to over-exaggerate things from time to time so who knows.

I must have missed her getting threatened on her by someone, unless it was thru PMs.
 
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