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Personally I like the word Oriental for people like Yoko from the far east. I find it a much better word than Asian.

Not to get in the middle of an important dispute here but Oriental was a completely acceptable term for lots of my lifetime. I'm not sure exactly when that changed but it probably was after 1980. John Lennon may very well have freely used the word Oriental right up to the time of his death.

Like me, he would probably have done so without the slightest negative connotation.

The switch from Oriental to Asian is, to my way of thinking, political correctness at its most dopey. Anyone who is going to say Oriental with some kind of underlying hatred is going to have the same idiotic shit going on in his head using the term Asian. Nothing is solved or even slightly improved. All we have done is make things less precise.




My 2 cents.
 
Personally I like the word Oriental for people like Yoko from the far east. I find it a much better word than Asian.

Not to get in the middle of an important dispute here
but Oriental was a completely acceptable term for lots of my lifetime. I'm not sure exactly when that changed but it probably was after 1980. John Lennon may very well have freely used the word Oriental right up to the time of his death.

Like me, he would probably have done so without the slightest negative connotation.

The switch from Oriental to Asian is, to my way of thinking, political correctness at its most dopey. Anyone who is going to say Oriental with some kind of underlying hatred is going to have the same idiotic shit going on in his head using the term Asian. Nothing is solved or even slightly improved. All we have done is make things less precise.




My 2 cents.


And Robyn labeled me condescending.

For the record when the little guy bought the golf course years ago I referred to him as Oriental cause I didn't know if he was Japanese, Chinese or what. He promptly corrected me and told me that Oriental was a type of rug and that he was Korean.
 
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For the record when the little guy bought the golf course years ago I referred to him as Oriental cause I didn't know if he was Japanese, Chinese or what. He promptly corrected me and told me that Oriental was a type of rug and that he was Korean.


Yeah that sounds like the kind of dingbat who causes the problems. I guess it depends how uppity he was about it.

Saying oriental is basically like saying black. It is just a way of narrowing things down.

If I am trying to describe Gus and and I say he is Asian, it could mean Syrian or Sikh or Russian or Taliban or Japanese. Pretty broad spectrum there. Guess what: Gus is Oriental. Even not knowing the exact country, I was able to give you a better idea who you are looking for. How about that!

I'm glad society has accepted using the term black. I remember some pockets of resistance to it at times, and I'm sure some people still get uppity but it seems to be generally acceptable. Score one for sanity.
 
I love when boxing announcers are forced to describe smail details on fighters' trunks cause they're not allowed to say that one guy is white and the other's black.

So, uh, both Vladimir Klitschko and Lennox Lewis are wearing red with gold trim, but if you squint a little you'll see hints of a white seam along the right side Lewis's trunks. Look look, right there.

:facepalm:
 
Do they? So obviously it is not quite as universally acceptable as I was supposing, as it is in my little world here.

I don't get out much.

Now that I think about it, I have seen comedy sketches too about people doing contortions to avoid describing someone as black. I dunno. I wouldn't hesitate to use the term black with any of the friendly suburban black people I know.

:dunno:
 
Do they? So obviously it is not quite as universally acceptable as I was supposing, as it is in my little world here.

I don't get out much.

Now that I think about it, I have seen comedy sketches too about people doing contortions to avoid describing someone as black. I dunno. I wouldn't hesitate to use the term black with any of the friendly suburban black people I know

:dunno:
I have embraced it and find it comical to see people struggle to avoid stating the obvious.