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Teela
What happened to the other woman?
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I am guessing you are talking about Lisa? She dumped me. In bed at about 3 a.m. right around Christmas, she announced she didn't think we should see each other any more.

She gave a bizarre reason. It seemed nonsensical to me so I just took it to mean something about me wasn't working for her chemistry-wise and she was trying to spare my feelings. It had a reverse effect and made me doubt everything about myself but whatever - that's what happened.

Her reason kind of left the door open that she might call in the future but I'm not waiting around. I have moved on and have met 4 or 5 women since then. One of them even clicked and after that first face-to-face meeting we agreed we would try some dating - she was actually very enthusiastic - but then I disclosed that I am a recovering alcoholic, as I try to do at some point early in relationships, and it was just, "No way. Bye."

There was the Mad German (I finally cut that one off). There was Cute Girl Down the Street (she felt a lack of chemistry at our first face-to-face). There was the Asian with Low Self-Esteem (still in touch with her actually). There was another girl who was nice but lived too far away and I felt no physical attraction.

And then there is Dawn. We'll see where it goes.



And you are basically up to date. :greencheck:
 
I guess I need to check in more often!

I'm so sorry to hear about Lisa. I had high hopes for you two kids! Women are bizarre creatures. She was probably hoping to keep the door slightly open so that she could give it another go down the road.

I don't think it's a bad thing that you tell people that you are a recovering alcoholic. I understand why you do it on the first date. The guy that I'm dating told me what he thought might be a deal breaker on the first date and it was something that I understood. I think he was relieved because he got it out of the way and we could move forward.

You're a great guy, Muddy! I'm crossing my fingers for you!
 
Teela
You're a great guy, Muddy! I'm crossing my fingers for you!
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Muddy, you are a great guy, and a nice one too.

Reminds me of a saying about nice guys.

Muddy, time to start being a cunt pal.

You can always take trips (like Plommer) to foreign places where the broads don't give a fuck about the past, or anything else.


Mudcat
I pee sitting down.
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Mudcat, I don't think I should have to remind you to NEVER disclose this fact to any woman you plan on penetrating.
 
Teela
I guess I need to check in more often!

I'm so sorry to hear about Lisa. I had high hopes for you two kids! Women are bizarre creatures. She was probably hoping to keep the door slightly open so that she could give it another go down the road.

I don't think it's a bad thing that you tell people that you are a recovering alcoholic. I understand why you do it on the first date. The guy that I'm dating told me what he thought might be a deal breaker on the first date and it was something that I understood. I think he was relieved because he got it out of the way and we could move forward.

You're a great guy, Muddy! I'm crossing my fingers for you!
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Details on the potential deal breaker, please.
 
Teela
I don't think it's a bad thing that you tell people that you are a recovering alcoholic. I understand why you do it on the first date. The guy that I'm dating told me what he thought might be a deal breaker on the first date and it was something that I understood. I think he was relieved because he got it out of the way and we could move forward.

You're a great guy, Muddy! I'm crossing my fingers for you!
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Thanks.

Yeah I am firm believer in disclosing those kinds of deal-breakers ASAP. Some people debate the point and I don't get it. It's like they think that the person is going to fall so deeply in love with them before the truth comes out that they will have to accept what they otherwise would have rejected???

Seems absurd to me.

As far as me being an addict, most people shrug it off. Some people give me pats on the back and tell me I'm courageous (which I'm not looking for but it happens). But every once in awhile . . .

Well actually twice I remember that it has it been a deal-breaker. The other time was many years ago.

The bigger deal-breaker for me right now is probably my financial situation. 48 year-old men are supposed to be financially secure or at least on their way there. My situation in that regard is pretty tragic.
 
reno cool
Muddy, how do you do it? That is putting up with so many women. One minute they like you the next they don't. :dunno:
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Yeah I dunno - some of the experiences are exasperating, no doubt. But at the heart of it, I love women. After a week at my bleak workplace, it was so nice on Friday to sit across from someone who looks good and smells good. Soon we'll be making each other feel good. That will be nice.

But bigger picture, you know what else?

Pardon the pathos but: I'm lonely.

Just plain lonely. For so much of my life I never cared. Often, I preferred to be alone. But just in the last year or so I have been learning a new feeling. True loneliness.

Guy friends are fine but I want a woman.
 
Teela
Women are bizarre creatures.
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Newsflash?

Teela
I don't think it's a bad thing that you tell people that you are a recovering alcoholic. I understand why you do it on the first date. The guy that I'm dating told me what he thought might be a deal breaker on the first date and it was something that I understood.
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He told you in Spanish that he has herpes?

PS: Would a woman be more turned off by the admission of the presence of herpes or the fact someone is an addict?

(Plommer's belief that paying broads to go away after coitus isn't such a horrible thing. He is receiving some reassurance in this thread.)

Mudcat
I am guessing you are talking about Lisa? She dumped me. In bed at about 3 a.m. right around Christmas, she announced she didn't think we should see each other any more.
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I love how this broad made it sound like it was a good idea and you agreed.

Plommer sees it another way, she didn't want to see you anymore but you still wouldn't have had a problem seeing her, sounds like a one sided decision.

Muddy, if I were you I wouldn't have agreed, I would have argued that it was a bad idea.

Did you put up any resistance? You just let her walk? common.

Next time this happens you may want to try another strategy, perhaps a slap upside her head would help. Good thing is even if she still leaves at least you got one last shot in.
 
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Mudcat
Do you feel like you're making sense right now?
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I am.

Muddy, you know how much I like to goof off on this (and every other) subject, pal.

It's hard for me to be serious.

Muddy, my most recent real girlfriend dated me for 3 months before announcing she was not in love with me and dating me further would be a waste of time for her because she knew she would never fall in love with me.

Thats how I got the news I was chucked.

I found that experience to be quite unpleasant.

Plus, we never fucked again after that conversation.

I would like to add that since she dumped me she went on to get pregnant and have a baby, she is now a single mother.
 
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RogueJuror
How does that make you feel?
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Lucky, I guess.

She wanted someone to love, not a man but a child, she was 35, never married and childless - so she basically saved me from 18 years of child support payments.

I was a little bummed when she chucked me, cause I really liked the regular dependable sex, but I wasn't going to be with her long-term anyway so it didn't really matter.

I accept that I will die alone.
(like bread, fiveteamer and mudcat)
 
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