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Ilya Kovalchuk can go fuck himself

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Dave, IMHO the Islanders aren't much farther off from the Kings in competition for the cup, and the Thrashers just made some big moves that might put them in that same realm. Btw I don't consider the Ducks much better than those teams either...

You are way, way off if you think the Islanders are on the same page as the Kings. They've got some great young players in Tavares, Okposo, etc., but they have nothing when it comes to defense and goaltending. They also have an owner who has budgeted the team to only spend to the cap floor, meaning that when those young guys are up for big raises, they will probably just walk in favor of cheaper options, or be re-signed but have no players put around them. The Kings are still a year or two away from being serious cup contenders, but they are MUCH closer than the Islanders and have a much better ownership group/GM in place.

Atlanta is definitely going in the right direction. And you are right about the Ducks on the slide, too... the defense is a very major issue. The question is whether they'll be smart enough to let Fowler develop properly in the minors first, or if they will rush him due to their needs on defense and screw up his potential.
 
Kovalchuk is holding up the UFA and trade market. Once he signs with an NHLteam things should start happening on trade/signing fronts. I need me some hockey news. I need to see what happens with Kaberle. Leafs are lookin like a much improved team and with the return we get for KAberle and 1 more signing we should be able to compete for a playoff spot.

I hope all teams take a pass on Kovalchuk to teach the greedy fucker a lesson.

Im a big fan of him, he is my favorite player and I thought he was looking for a winning team and not looking for money.

Guess I am wrong...cause it is clearly the money that is holding him back from signing

For sure. I don't blame a guy for trying to get his, but at some point you have to be willing to compromise. Not sure how a guy with one playoff win in his entire career gets the idea he should be the league's highest paid player at 10mil/per. He's one of the best pure scorers of our generation, but he's not worth that kind of cap hit. Few players are.
 
For sure. I don't blame a guy for trying to get his, but at some point you have to be willing to compromise. Not sure how a guy with one playoff win in his entire career gets the idea he should be the league's highest paid player at 10mil/per. He's one of the best pure scorers of our generation, but he's not worth that kind of cap hit. Few players are.

IMO he is an excellent player. Although he does lack in the playoff department, you have to reconsider that stat when you see he only played for two teams in his career. Thrashers and Devils. And let's face it..both those teams sucked when he played for them. Put him on a solid team and he will shine in the playoffs. But it comes down to him taking a pay cut, and its clear he will not do that, which baffles me, because I thought the guy just wanted to win the cup for once. But us as the fans, we do not really know what he is going to do or what he wants to do. Im still leaning he wants to be on a winning team and the Kings are just not that team right now, maybe in 3 years but not right now. The Devils will never be that team until they find the next Brodeur, and with him getting older I am sure it pushes Ilya away from the Devils. The Islanders, forget it, he was better off staying in Atlanta if he wanted to be another star of the team and pretty much have his own franchise. Rangers I see are interested in him, but him and Avery hate each other, so that won't happen. Im a big Flyers fan and I really expected him to take a pay cut and come here and win the cup, but they went and got the other Russian Zherdev, so the Flyers are out of the picture. Who is left?? All I see thats left is a possible one year deal with a team until he wins that cup, he is gonna MArian Hossa it. And I do not blame him....(Capitals, with his buddy Ovechkin?)

And also his wife wants to be in LA for her pop music career, thats why he is still considering LA I believe
 
But that's the thing; shouldn't the fact that Atlanta could never win anything building around him tell you something?

Great teams are built strong up the middle (center) and on defense. That is where your money needs to be spent. There's a reason that the game's premier goal-scoring wingers (Nash, Heatley, Kovalchuk, Ovechkin) have no cups. Ovechkin may deserve to be in his own category as he's a tier above those other three, but I just don't believe 15-20% of your entire cap space should be spent on a winger. The idea is, a good center makes the whole line better. Look at what Crosby can do for guys like Guerin, Kunitz, Armstrong, Talbot... and look at what d-men like Chris Pronger and Rob Neidermayer can do.

As such, I'd love Kovalchuk at a 6.5-7 cap hit, as he's a gamebreaker, and the Kings look very organizationally deep at defense and center. But 9-10 cap hit he wants? No way. Only Ovechkin makes that much, and he's a much better player than Kovi is. Malkin and Crosby are the only other players making 8+, and they deserve it, too; they are game changing centers.
 
But that's the thing; shouldn't the fact that Atlanta could never win anything building around him tell you something?

Great teams are built strong up the middle (center) and on defense. That is where your money needs to be spent. There's a reason that the game's premier goal-scoring wingers (Nash, Heatley, Kovalchuk, Ovechkin) have no cups. Ovechkin may deserve to be in his own category as he's a tier above those other three, but I just don't believe 15-20% of your entire cap space should be spent on a winger. The idea is, a good center makes the whole line better. Look at what Crosby can do for guys like Guerin, Kunitz, Armstrong, Talbot... and look at what d-men like Chris Pronger and Rob Neidermayer can do.

As such, I'd love Kovalchuk at a 6.5-7 cap hit, as he's a gamebreaker, and the Kings look very organizationally deep at defense and center. But 9-10 cap hit he wants? No way. Only Ovechkin makes that much, and he's a much better player than Kovi is. Malkin and Crosby are the only other players making 8+, and they deserve it, too; they are game changing centers.

If I recall your a Kings fan right? I believe if Kovi decides not to go there, they will want Simon Gagne....
 
If I recall your a Kings fan right? I believe if Kovi decides not to go there, they will want Simon Gagne....

Yeah, word is Kings will likely look to Gagne or Sharp should Kovalchuk fall through.

UFA-to-be with injury history, +Philly's cap troubles, I don't think you Flyers fans will be happy with the return you get on him in the trade market.
 
Yeah, word is Kings will likely look to Gagne or Sharp should Kovalchuk fall through.

UFA-to-be with injury history, +Philly's cap troubles, I don't think you Flyers fans will be happy with the return you get on him in the trade market.

I rather him stay and Hartnell take a hike, but Im not expecting much for Gagne. We got Zherdev to pretty much be his replacement, I have been dying for a Russian to get on this team for some time now.
 
I'm not the least bit bitter... I had a facebook status because it's extremely relevant for the future of the CBA, salary cap, etc. Kind of a huge development. The contract was a sham, paying a guy 11.5 mil a year during his prime and ending up paying only 6 mil cap hit. FIVE years at league minimum salary, which will be worth even less in 12 years? There have been contracts that have bent the rules, but this one took a shit on them. Glad the NHL was able to draw a line in the sand, it would have set a very dangerous precedent.
 
I would argue that there is no such thing as a huge development in the NHL because well it is the NHL. As much as I love it...I know it is irrelevant

Well, yeah. When a kid learns to walk, its a huge development to the parents, not so much for the rest of the world that doesn't give a shit.

For hockey fans, it is a huge development. For non hockey fans, obviously not.