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MonkeyF0cker
In the last day, Matty has gotten all excited about blowjobs and goo. I'm really beginning to wonder...
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Daft
Matty what was the final determination at the conclusion of the Gatti homicide investigation?

Did he off himself or did that ungrateful bitch kill him?
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The Brazilian police concluded that he choked himself to death with the strap of his wife's purse. Yeah. :wacko:

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4368620

This is more like it:

http://www.nationalpost.com/most-popular/story.html?id=1785839
 
Mrs. X
If your trying to kick something like coke, you go to meetings, people tell you you're doing the right thing, there's support. You can trust that even though it sucks, people tell you what to do and you generally know that it's the right thing. They did it, you can too. This? I'm not clear, but at least I'm going to get to a few weeks of taking nothing before I can really clearly decide.
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There probably are meetings that would help. I go to a weekly addiction recovery meeting where that kind of talk would fit right in. In my life, I have had to go through many, many kinds of withdrawal, street drugs and pharmaceuticals (although not Cymbalta specifically). But there are regulars in the group with OCD issues and who have experience with other pharmaceuticals.

Unfortunately my group is in Toronto but I have to think there must be similar gatherings where you are. Maybe look up LifeRing. It is secular. I think Lifering is pretty strong out in your area.

Well I don't know your situation in detail. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away here or else MrX has my e-mail.
 
Wow. Quite the controversy I started over welterweights. Robyn is correct, UFC welterweights are 156-170. And everyone else is correct that those guys walk around a good 15-20 pounds heavier. Maybe I should have asked if UFC lightweights look scrawny, but then again when I'm done with this thing I expect to be around 155 which is close to a welterweight walking in the ring as it is to a lightweight. Splitting hairs.

I am 5'9 barefoot and have a pretty small frame. According to every standard I can find, my ideal body weight is somewhere between 150-155 lbs.
 
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Jello
Wow. Quite the controversy I started over welterweights. Robyn is correct, UFC welterweights are 156-170. And everyone else is correct that those guys walk around a good 15-20 pounds heavier. Maybe I should have asked if UFC lightweights look scrawny.

I am 5'9 barefoot and have a pretty small frame. According to every standard I can find, my ideal body weight is somewhere between 150-155 on the high end.
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jello- that's about right on the ideal body weight. as you know i am short. 5'7" , 150 lbs. gl on p90x, it's really tough the first 2 weeks. don't worry about about the diet, stay at 1500 cal/day; good carbs, limit sugars, and up protein.
 
I take it you've done it too kato? I don't know about 1,500 cal's but I'm pretty sure I'm under 2,000 a day right now. I burn about 400 jogging and probably walk at least 3-4 miles 5 days a week at work (6-7 hours on my feet), so I think I can allow a few more calories. I might cut out the running once I start the program as I understand there is a good bit of cardio involved.
 
Jello
I take it you've done it too kato? I don't know about 1,500 cal's but I'm pretty sure I'm under 2,000 a day right now. I burn about 400 jogging and probably walk at least 3-4 miles 5 days a week at work (6-7 hours on my feet), so I think I can allow a few more calories. I might cut out the running once I start the program as I understand there is a good bit of cardio involved.
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about 6 mos ago was doing p90x to get back into shape. it wasn't easy. i still do the yoga part once a week, but now most of my workouts are done at the gym. you will see results. i only use the 1500 cal because of the burn rate per day. jogging on the other hand may wipe you out completely combined with the full p90x workouts. as mrs. x said and i agree the plyometrics part might kill you. it did me.
 
Mudcat
There probably are meetings that would help. I go to a weekly addiction recovery meeting where that kind of talk would fit right in. In my life, I have had to go through many, many kinds of withdrawal, street drugs and pharmaceuticals (although not Cymbalta specifically). But there are regulars in the group with OCD issues and who have experience with other pharmaceuticals.

Unfortunately my group is in Toronto but I have to think there must be similar gatherings where you are. Maybe look up LifeRing. It is secular. I think Lifering is pretty strong out in your area.

Well I don't know your situation in detail. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away here or else MrX has my e-mail.
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Hey, your in Toronto! I've always wanted to visit your fine city and just didn't ever around to it. I lived in Detroit for 12 years and never made the five hour drive.

I'm not a stranger to meetings and I have considered going back for this. I still go once in awhile just to get perspective and connect. There was a time I was going everyday for at least a year and pretty regularly for about 4. I stopped because of the adage "once an addict, always an addict". Not all at once, but I just drifted away. It wasn't necessarily a bad thing. It seemed like at a certain point I felt like a "normal" person and I was hanging out with all kinds of sickness and differing degrees of brokenness. I'm not dogging it by any means, I still use everything I learned on a daily basis and feel like I might not even be here if it wasn't for that time I spent in meetings.

Also, in this situation, it's really not the support from withdrawl I need, because I've done it too and I know it's just a matter of being uncomfortable and waiting it out. It's the assurance that this is the right thing to be doing. And really, right now, I don't really need that either because I've made the commitment to get down to 0mgs and then wait at least two weeks before I even begin to evaluate the situation.

But, it's not a bad idea either. You can never really go wrong with hugs and talking.
 
Mrs. X
Also, in this situation, it's really not the support from withdrawl I need, because I've done it too and I know it's just a matter of being uncomfortable and waiting it out. It's the assurance that this is the right thing to be doing.
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I don't know enough to say you are doing the right thing but I certainly related to what you were saying as far as symptoms (like the spontaneous weepies attacks). I suspect you are doing the right thing - you have your reasons - and I support your decisions.

I wish you could talk to my friend Ted. I have learned a lot about OCD from him.

Anyway, it is the ultimate cliche, but it is ultimately true and I know it for a fact: you can get through it. There is hope.
 
I have a headache, nausea and I've been sleeping for the last six hours. I'm skipping derby practice, if that's any indication of my world right now. I think I've skipped twice, and one time I was out of the state. I was really looking forward to skating on skates that are only one size too big. Our other room mate loaned them to me. Every time I get up I've been veering left. I'm disappointed that the symptoms are probably going to get worse before they get better. I slept through a Dr. appointment today. I'm rescheduling for tomorrow to see if I can get something to help for the next few weeks.

I'm unabashedly looking for attention and reassurance.....oh F that, tell me something funny.

If I didn't mention it before, besides living with Reno Cool, we live with Red Die #40:

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She's really nice, and had an adjustment period with our sarcastic ways. The first day she was here she went to the store, came back and said, "I got some soy milk". I said, "are you bragging or sharing". The look on her face was priceless. It didn't take long for her to fit in. She's in the groove now.
 
Jello
Mrs X, my stepmother shipped me her P90X yesterday. I was talking to a girl at work today and she made it sound like it's basically impossible to do. She said there are 1,000 pushups the first day. I was like..."A thousand? Really?" And she said, "yes...a thousand". I said, "Really now. A thousand. One thousand. Really?" She said, "yes, a thousand". I said, "are you sure you're not exaggerating a little. A thousand. Really?" She said, "yes. A thousand."

I still don't believe her. I've been doing sets of 20-30 every other day up to about 100 or so total for the past few weeks. I also run about 3 miles a day. Is this thing going to be completely impossible or what? I mean...people do it right? She also said she couldn't walk after the first week. She made it sound like it was literally impossible to do. She said the workouts are an hour and half every day, with one break day a week. I said, an hour and a half....really? She said "yes, an hour and half". I said "really?".....
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Jello, let me know what you really think of this product. Especially the nutrition part.
 
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