Food stamps rant...

[IAG]

I suppose it depends on your definition of sef-absorbed

I measure it not by taxes (though I pay plenty) but by running a volunteer commitee in my home town

See lots of people talk about giving and helping but very few actually do

.I think many more than you might think. Of course many do it for the tax breaks, and also it's easy to just write a check. Giving of your time is truly selfless. Good job Cougar.

 

[Cougar Bait]

I guess my point is regardless of your stance on these issues behind closed doors you simply don't know what people are up to. So judging them based on limited knowledge seems problematic.

 

[IAG]

I'm not sure who you think is judging who.

 

[IAG]

To clarify when I said it (success) comes at a price, I wasn't talking about the price to the needy...I was talking about the price to the driven.

 

[Matty]

I'm not talking about helping the needy here. I'm talking about a proper rebellion, with guillotines and shit.

Maybe not guillotines. We can fine-tune the details later.

Self-absorbed in the sense that, unless a fokken blood-thirsty Nazi points a gun to their head on the way to KFC, people do not give a shit about what is going on in the world, outside of their lifestyle.

 

[Cougar Bait]

I was speaking in general terms guys

No finger pointing going on here

I personally don't like others judging based on a political viewpoint

Especially since logic dictates that's quite impossible

Explain your revolt Matty

 

[Matty]

It occurs to me that, unless the current system is tweaked, the income disparity between the top and the bottom is only gonna get wider. Not because the successful are gonna be more successful, just that the system will have reached a point of no return where the wealth accumulated at the top snowballs out of control and completely annihilates the odds that the lower strates of society can improve their situation, in part because of overtaxation meant to support the elites.

It's the capitalist cycle of life. I'm not saying anything new or interesting.

I see it happening somewhere in a G20 nation before I die.

In Canada, you see a lot of self-made Europeans who bring their working-class family over to escape failing economies. Many Italians here, and French in Quebec.

 

[Cougar Bait]

I have to disagree. Economically just because 1 person earns a dollar it does not mean another person cannot.

At some point people have to take responsibility for their own lives instead of looking at others and wondering why they couldn't have the same.

Take away the "drive" or "ambition" to attain and you'll destroy everything we've created

It's already happened actually but to reverse that mentality instead of fueling it would be ideal

 

[IAG]

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnstossel/2006/12/06/who_gives_to_charity/page/full Interesting. Have to toot the SoDak horn here. SF gives more to charity than the other SF.

 

[Matty]

CB you're missing the point. Talk to me again when there is a worldwide shortage of food and only the top 50% earners in the US can afford groceries.

 

[IAG]

"The people who give one thing tend to be the people who give everything in America. You find that people who believe it's the government's job to make incomes more equal, are far less likely to give their money away."



http://townhall.com/columnists/johnstossel/2006/12/06/who_gives_to_charity/page/full

 

[Matty]

I give 10 bucks a month to United Way.

And I gave 5 bucks to Brock Landers.

Yeh me benevolent.

 

[Cougar Bait]

I'm not though Matty. You're assuming something with your respose. I'm not. There's not a finite amount of money in the world. Granted, in your scenario it would play out as such but who here knows what's to come? You can't write law based on those kinds of assumptions.

 

[Matty]

Yeah yeah, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Drill, baby, drill!

 

[FairWarning]

I have to disagree. Economically just because 1 person earns a dollar it does not mean another person cannot.

At some point people have to take responsibility for their own lives instead of looking at others and wondering why they couldn't have the same.

Take away the "drive" or "ambition" to attain and you'll destroy everything we've created

It's already happened actually but to reverse that mentality instead of fueling it would be ideal

Spot on.

 

[Matty]

lol @ blue-collar types embracing the ideology of the upper class

you two are talking like the big shots you're not

 

[Cougar Bait]

I just believe you should work for what you get, and there's nothing hypocritical about that. Especially since that's exactly what I do.

But keep taking your shots if it makes you feel better.

 

[reno cool]

lol @ blue-collar types embracing the ideology of the upper class

you two are talking like the big shots you're not

people tend to miss the scope of how large fortunes are made and maintained. We not talking about some drivin induvidual opening up shoe store etc..