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Daft, the coverage of the story is nauseating.

Today for almost a whole hour I watched a segment where they interviewed residents that were locked down.

They all said the same thing, over and over, "what was it like for you?" "oh my gawd I never expected something like this in my neighborhood" etc etc.

I was purposely trying to make myself sick from listening to the garbage, and I accomplished my goal.


"This kind of thing never happens in my neighborhood" Of course it doesn't you fukkin idiots! \
It happens once in a lifetime for most people.


Like lottery winners saying "I never win the lottery" Well you just did, but don't plan on it happeneing again anytime sson, you dumb cunt.
 
Common plommer.

This is a hate crime committed against an entire population. There was no specific target - it could've been you or I.

You were the bombers' target plommerballs. Think about it.

Yeah, Matty the point I'm trying to make is that so many violent acts get zero coverage, like it's acceptable, no one seems to care that people die violent deaths every day in America.

I may have been the target but the perps were crazy, their cause has zero merit.

I would also be a target if I were walking the streets of Detriot alone at night, or lunchtime, but for different reasons.

"Jose can you see" "The bombs bursting in air!"

PS: Matty, I take great comfort in the fact that there is a river separating big bad Detroit from Windsor and that most blacks cant swim.

:canada:
 
I would also be a target if I were walking the streets of Detriot alone at night, or lunchtime, but for different reasons.

but you wouldn't be.

you aren't a black gang banger, or innocent bystander of black gangs.

you want to be nauseated? give the hysterical mom and 50 aunts and uncles and 9 bros and sisters 60 mins of airtime talking about how much of a saint 19 year old Oranjello was, 60 mins of airtime. repeat that 500 times a year in chicago.

then see if a bomb explosion at an event with a bunch of fit skinny white people might be a bit more interesting
 
greg, you sound frustrated (and there's nothing wrong with that) but at the moment you're not thinking clearly.

How am I not thinking clearly? The FBI admitted they interviewed Tsarnaev two years ago after receiving intelligence from a foreign government. They admitted they knew he traveled to Russia this year, His mother may be lying but lets find out. She stated "her biggest suspicion surrounding the case was the constant FBI surveillance she said her family was subjected to over the years. She is surprised that having been so stringent with the entire family, the FBI had no idea the sons were supposedly planning a terrorist act."

"They used to come [to our] home, they used to talk to me…they were telling me that he [the older, 26-y/o Tamerlan] was really an extremist leader and that they were afraid of him. They told me whatever information he is getting, he gets from these extremist sites"

FBI's Joint Terrorist Task Force had Carlos Bledsoe ( Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad) under surveillance since his return from Yemen and he shoots up an Army recruiting station.

Fort Hood Shooting: FBI Ignored Evidence Against Nidal Hasan For Political Correctness, Report Says

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...al-hasan-political-correctness_n_1685653.html

"Nidal sent 20 often-rambling emails that an Army psychiatrist sent to Yemeni terror leader Anwar al-Awlaki painted a confusing picture.In some he was a believer intent on supporting terrorists and intrigued with the idea of U.S. soldiers killing comrades in the name of Islam. In others he was a man looking for help finding an appropriate wife".In the end, they weren't enough for the FBI to identify Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan as a terrorist threat?"

The Federal authorities were aware for years that suspected terrorists with ties to bin Laden were getting flight training at schools in the United States and abroad. Just llke at the timeline for 9-11 and the way this was set up.

Look at so many of these terrorist attacks from Madrid,London, and all over the west and you see the same pattern and I am not just talking about intelligence agencies, these terrorist perceive a weakness in western culture and they are right. 9-11 wasn't just about Afghanistan training. It was born in Germany and the United states and the west. Alot of these terrorist attack the west because they are frightened of their own countries intelligence systems and the treatment they will receive. This could have been a hell of alot worse it it were a chemical attack, you dont wait for something far worse than 9-11 or Beslan or the Apartment bombings in Russia to act.
 
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Greg, Russia probably asked the US to check on them boys thinking they were in support of a Chechnyan cell plotting against Russia. Having read pretty much nothing on this I'm pretty sure the gvmnt did their intel gather from that perspective not expecting home to be a target. From that angle, it's not like the US is ecstatic in giving Russia a hand, i.e. Syria. Turning a blind eye on atrocities is a common tool of foreign policy.

The Russian have the winter olympics coming up so there will definitely be some dialogue I would imagine. Beslan resulted in 380 deaths, The Apartment bombings was four block of apartments all over Russia that was atrocious. These groups will hit London,Madrid, Paris,Canada,The US. Mumbai. Wherever they can and are allowed to set up shop. This is a worldwide movement, if some in the FBI ignored evidence from Russia it borders on the criminally incompetent.
 
Good article from the LA Times - http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...on-chechnya-radicals-20130420,0,1737264.story

A massive Russian crackdown on Chechnya's bid for independence in the 1990s and the installation of loyal leaders there pushed the Caucasus Muslim enclave from the headlines years ago. But resentment has festered and at times bled into the global holy war being waged by Islamic militants.

It appears unlikely that oppression of Chechnya's Muslim majority instigated the attack on the Boston Marathon, in which two Chechen emigre brothers are suspects. The two were young when they arrived in the United States and weren't known to associate with militants.

But the unhealed wounds of the Chechnya conflict, which raged for five years after a 1994 uprising, serve as a reminder that localized religious and ethnic tensions can spill across borders.

Chechen fighters have traveled to Afghanistan, Pakistan and neighboring Caucasus regions for military and explosives training, joining their cause to a worldwide jihad.

Chechen militants and their foreign supporters who trained at Al Qaeda-run camps in Afghanistan were among the terrorist suspects swept up after the U.S. invasion and imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay or CIA "black sites." Some are still believed to be in indefinite detention.

And Chechen warlords have been added to the U.S. list of terrorist suspects, most recently in February 2011 when Doku Umarov was branded a fugitive enemy after he claimed responsibility for organizing suicide bombings on Moscow's subway in 2010 that killed at least 40 people.

No Chechen leaders have made overt threats to attack the United States, said Simon Saradzhyan, a Russian fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center. He added, though, that Umarov's listing could be "a narrative to justify attack."

Thousands of Chechen civilians, like the family of Boston suspects Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, fled the southern Russian territory during and after the secessionist wars, which scattered refugees across Europe and the United States.

Some have proved vulnerable to recruitment by militants, such as 25-year-old Lors Doukayev, who in 2010 attempted to bomb the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten after it published cartoon-like images of the prophet Muhammad.

Chechen immigrants have been arrested as recently as a month ago in France, and others have been prosecuted in Spain and Austria, accused of committing violence and plotting against foreign targets.

A few Chechens were spotted among foreign fighters battling U.S. troops around the Iraqi insurgency stronghold of Diyala in 2005. A small but sustained presence of Chechen fighters has been reported in the lawless tribal belt along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border that has long been a sanctuary for Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

But Chechnya was never much of a rallying cry for Islamic militants in the Middle East, said Talaat Mosallam, a retired Egyptian general and security expert. "There was a lot of sympathy for the Chechnya issue in Egypt in the period during the conflict between Chechnya and Russia. Interest in it died down soon after," he said.

While many Islamic militants target the United States because of its military interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Chechen insurgency is more squarely focused on Moscow, with often deadly effect.

Chechen fighters seized hundreds of hostages in the southern Russian town of Budennovsk in June 1995, and more than 100 were killed in a botched raid to free them. Seven months later, rebels grabbed hundreds from a hospital in the Dagestani town of Kizlyar, bused them to the Chechen border and used them as human shields. Dozens died.

Suicide bombers killed scores of police, soldiers and commuters during the early years of the last decade, and 129 hostages and 41 Chechen militants died in a 2002 standoff when Russian special forces stormed a Moscow theater where 700 were being held hostage; most deaths were caused by gas intended to knock out the gunmen. The deadliest attack occurred in 2004, when 331 hostages — half of them children — died in the retaking of a school in the North Ossetia town of Beslan.

"The Chechen resistance might have an anti-American motive, but the U.S. government and U.S. NGOs have been very critical of the Russian war in Chechnya. They have stood by Russia when Chechens commit acts of terror, but it's not as if we have underwritten [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's policies in Chechnya," said Rajan Menon, a City College of New York professor and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. "Quite to the contrary.... There's no particular beef the Chechens have with the United States."

The Russian have the winter olympics coming up so there will definitely be some dialogue I would imagine. Beslan resulted in 380 deaths, The Apartment bombings was four block of apartments all over Russia that was atrocious. These groups will hit London,Madrid, Paris,Canada,The US. Mumbai. Wherever they can and are allowed to set up shop. This is a worldwide movement, if some in the FBI ignored evidence from Russia it borders on the criminally incompetent.

All those Chechen attacks to Russia throughout the years has been a good thing for the US, really. To have a destabilizing force against one of your competing superpower and one that is not not a threat to you and historically has never been is a good scenario to have, to use or possibly use in the future.

It's all a proxied game, 70,000 deaths in Syria in two years playing such games among these 2 and other countries. :facepalm:

US intel should have identified these brothers were full on Islamic jihadist and nothing to do with the Chechnya struggle.
 
Good article from the LA Times - http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...on-chechnya-radicals-20130420,0,1737264.story

A massive Russian crackdown on Chechnya's bid for independence in the 1990s and the installation of loyal leaders there pushed the Caucasus Muslim enclave from the headlines years ago. But resentment has festered and at times bled into the global holy war being waged by Islamic militants.

It appears unlikely that oppression of Chechnya's Muslim majority instigated the attack on the Boston Marathon, in which two Chechen emigre brothers are suspects. The two were young when they arrived in the United States and weren't known to associate with militants.

But the unhealed wounds of the Chechnya conflict, which raged for five years after a 1994 uprising, serve as a reminder that localized religious and ethnic tensions can spill across borders.

Chechen fighters have traveled to Afghanistan, Pakistan and neighboring Caucasus regions for military and explosives training, joining their cause to a worldwide jihad.

Chechen militants and their foreign supporters who trained at Al Qaeda-run camps in Afghanistan were among the terrorist suspects swept up after the U.S. invasion and imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay or CIA "black sites." Some are still believed to be in indefinite detention.

And Chechen warlords have been added to the U.S. list of terrorist suspects, most recently in February 2011 when Doku Umarov was branded a fugitive enemy after he claimed responsibility for organizing suicide bombings on Moscow's subway in 2010 that killed at least 40 people.

No Chechen leaders have made overt threats to attack the United States, said Simon Saradzhyan, a Russian fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center. He added, though, that Umarov's listing could be "a narrative to justify attack."

Thousands of Chechen civilians, like the family of Boston suspects Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, fled the southern Russian territory during and after the secessionist wars, which scattered refugees across Europe and the United States.

Some have proved vulnerable to recruitment by militants, such as 25-year-old Lors Doukayev, who in 2010 attempted to bomb the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten after it published cartoon-like images of the prophet Muhammad.

Chechen immigrants have been arrested as recently as a month ago in France, and others have been prosecuted in Spain and Austria, accused of committing violence and plotting against foreign targets.

A few Chechens were spotted among foreign fighters battling U.S. troops around the Iraqi insurgency stronghold of Diyala in 2005. A small but sustained presence of Chechen fighters has been reported in the lawless tribal belt along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border that has long been a sanctuary for Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

But Chechnya was never much of a rallying cry for Islamic militants in the Middle East, said Talaat Mosallam, a retired Egyptian general and security expert. "There was a lot of sympathy for the Chechnya issue in Egypt in the period during the conflict between Chechnya and Russia. Interest in it died down soon after," he said.

While many Islamic militants target the United States because of its military interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Chechen insurgency is more squarely focused on Moscow, with often deadly effect.

Chechen fighters seized hundreds of hostages in the southern Russian town of Budennovsk in June 1995, and more than 100 were killed in a botched raid to free them. Seven months later, rebels grabbed hundreds from a hospital in the Dagestani town of Kizlyar, bused them to the Chechen border and used them as human shields. Dozens died.

Suicide bombers killed scores of police, soldiers and commuters during the early years of the last decade, and 129 hostages and 41 Chechen militants died in a 2002 standoff when Russian special forces stormed a Moscow theater where 700 were being held hostage; most deaths were caused by gas intended to knock out the gunmen. The deadliest attack occurred in 2004, when 331 hostages — half of them children — died in the retaking of a school in the North Ossetia town of Beslan.

"The Chechen resistance might have an anti-American motive, but the U.S. government and U.S. NGOs have been very critical of the Russian war in Chechnya. They have stood by Russia when Chechens commit acts of terror, but it's not as if we have underwritten [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's policies in Chechnya," said Rajan Menon, a City College of New York professor and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. "Quite to the contrary.... There's no particular beef the Chechens have with the United States."



All those Chechen attacks to Russia throughout the years has been a good thing for the US, really. To have a destabilizing force against one of your competing superpower and one that is not not a threat to you and historically has never been is a good scenario to have, to use or possibly use in the future.

It's all a proxied game, 70,000 deaths in Syria in two years playing such games among these 2 and other countries. :facepalm:

US intel should have identified these brothers were full on Islamic jihadist and nothing to do with the Chechnya struggle.

Good article. Irregardless of the winter olympics, I would hope these intelligence agencies would work together alot more on some of these issues. Russia,Mumbai,Paris,London, Argentina, US, Madrid,all of these places have experienced attacks, even China may face it one day, these agencies need to work together to whatever extent they can. We have had problems with intelligence agencies and different departments working well together in the US , I cant imagine what its like internationally.

Whatever info the Russians shared with the fbi, and with his mothers claims that the FBI knew of Tamerlanes radicalism and their surveillance even after the original interview 2 years ago, obviously somebody felt the brothers and Tamerlane deserved to stay in the US. Tamerlane was never a citizen even when he was being interviewed and his brother gained citizenship a year after the original fbi interview, even while his mother claims they were still under suspicion. Sometimes the fbi leads people on to catch them further it the act but they are claiming the case was dropped after the original interview and his mother says they were under constant surveillance?

I am not one of these anti government- conspiracist types, there were alot of mistakes made during 9-11 but law enforcement and the FBI has foiled tons of plots. I read last year there were 50 plots foiled since 9-11. ( plots to blow up the brooklyn bridge,Padilla, Richard Reid, plots to blow up underground gas tanks in maryland, Aldawsari got caught buying the toxic chemical phenol and was planning attacks against dams, nuclear power plants,Derrick Shareef was arrested on charges of planning to set off hand grenades in a chicago mall, plots to blow up the sears tower in chicago. Najibullah Zaz was arrested after purchasing large quantities of chemicals used to make a TATP bomb to drop in the new york subway). There is alot of stuff that intelligence agencies do that doesnt get the publics attention unless something horrible happens, and there really is only so much any nations intelligence agencies can do unless there are cultural and political changes in the west.