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Vegas Dave
For those in the "I want to see how many deaths this year compared to normal" camp, those numbers actually suggest COVID deaths might be being undercounted, not overcounted.

www.nytimes.com

U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests (Published 2020)

In seven hard-hit states, total deaths are nearly 50 percent higher than normal, according to new C.D.C. statistics, suggesting that the virus has killed far more people than the number in official counts.
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"suggests" LOL!

And my data suggests if Cuomo closed off NYC from anyone leaving the city boundary numerous less COVID deaths!

NY deaths 23,474 out of country's 60,460 represents 39% of US deaths!
Add in nearby NJ, Conn, and Mass and new total represents 58% of US deaths!
 
Virtually nothing changed for Palm Beach, Broward and Dade counties today. 30% of Florida's population resides in those 3 counties.

Here's what's changed in those 3 counties today as compared to yesterday:

You can play 1 on 1 tennis. You can play raquetball. They may have opened boat ramps (?)

No beaches are open, no gyms are open. It's shelter-in-place with tennis.
 
Tron
Virtually nothing changed for Palm Beach, Broward and Dade counties today. 30% of Florida's population resides in those 3 counties.

Here's what's changed in those 3 counties today as compared to yesterday:

You can play 1 on 1 tennis. You can play raquetball. They may have opened boat ramps (?)

No beaches are open, no gyms are open. It's shelter-in-place with tennis.
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I wish I was this lucky.
 
Vegas Dave
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Continued deflection and making light of the vectors and proven effective methods to avoid contraction. Would said factory operating with max possible given social distancing, hand washing and mask policies in place limit spread or at the very least prolong it (read: flatten the curve)?

Not to mention, mattys graph seriously ignores the demographics of the American factory worker which tends to skew younger than gen pop. Indeed, due to retirement ALL jobs skew younger than gen pop. In reality you take a slice of 100 American factory workers and the chart is naturally flatter and with less than average hospitalizations.

I know you're joking but you (or whomever created) should have removed the dot after day 15 on average for asymptomatic cases.

Got any good ones about morgue trucks? Or how about a guy at a restaurant sputtering for air with a line "I died freeeeeee..."?
 
Boner_18
Continued deflection and making light of the vectors and proven effective methods to avoid contraction. Would said factory operating with max possible given social distancing, hand washing and mask policies in place limit spread or at the very least prolong it (read: flatten the curve)?

Not to mention, mattys graph seriously ignores the demographics of the American factory worker which tends to skew younger than gen pop. Indeed, due to retirement ALL jobs skew younger than gen pop. In reality you take a slice of 100 American factory workers and the chart is naturally flatter and with less than average hospitalizations.

I know you're joking but you (or whomever created) should have removed the dot after day 15 on average for asymptomatic cases.

Got any good ones about morgue trucks? Or how about a guy at a restaurant sputtering for air with a line "I died freeeeeee..."?
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I tried engaging you in dialogue. You lectured me and accused me of a bunch of things and refused to answer a simple question 3-4 times over. So yeah, now I made a joke about it.

Ironic you accuse me of deflection and parlor tricks when YOU are the one that wouldnt move the conversation forward. But whatever, I don't care anymore.

You make some good points in this response, as you have in others. I've already acknowledged that. But you just keep making the same point over and over and refusing to move past that. Because of "deflection" or "socratic tricks" or some bullshit.

Big props to renocool... we seem to be polar opposites on most of these issues but he has never resorted to calling me names or accusing me of anything, dude just engages in conversation. You choose not to, so I guess we're done here.
 
The graph's flaw is that it focuses on "the factory". None of us spend 24/7 in one place - we're all in contact with gen pop, directly or not. "The factory" is just a vector of infection among many others.

Easing lockdown restrictions while we're ill-equipped to do mass testing reopens many of these vectors (even with masks and physical distancing which are just minimal mitigating tactics, not hard-proven methods of avoiding transmission).
 
Matty
The graph's flaw is that it focuses on "the factory". None of us spend 24/7 in one place - we're all in contact with gen pop, directly or not. "The factory" is just a vector of infection among many others.

Easing lockdown restrictions while we're ill-equipped to do mass testing reopens many of these vectors (even with masks and physical distancing which are just minimal mitigating tactics, not hard-proven methods of avoiding transmission).
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This is the thing for sure.

This kid at my fiancee's hospital was scheduled for surgery... tested him for Covid19 as a precaution... he tested positive. Had no symptoms at all. Never would have been tested had he not been prepping for surgery.

If we are serious about reopening and containing simultaneously, we need comprehensive testing.
 
Archie
I had an MRI scheduled for April to determine if I need a heart valve replacement due to a congenital defect that was discovered last year.

its been postponed indefinately. Hopefully my Aortic Anneurysm has not grown and I don't need surgery for a mechanical valve without knowing. Its a very real possiblity.
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archie have they updated you or still postponed indefinably?
 
Looks like California governor, the genius, is gonna close the beaches. Apparently they saw some pictures of people trying to enjoy themselves. Intolerable. If you look closely though, people in groups of 2 to 3, probably families. But still not good enough. Interesting to see how this will go down
 
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