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How many cases have you guys heard of people contracting the virus twice? Going to the Dominican Republic in July and I might be forced to get the vaccine. I'm starting to believe that the vaccine is not necessary except in that I might be required to travel. As far as the mask, I can't stand wearing it and will only wear it when I have to.

I have observed cases of double contraction but there have been cases of contraction even after taking the vaccine. The basic question that has not been discussed is how is the immunity provided by vaccine superior to the one provided by infection. There is no reason for someone in good health to be vaccinated after getting an infection. I have recently tested positive for covid antibodies and I am not even sure when I contracted it - my best guess is March 2020(assuming it's not a false positive). I will get tested again in a few months.
 
I have observed cases of double contraction but there have been cases of contraction even after taking the vaccine. The basic question that has not been discussed is how is the immunity provided by vaccine superior to the one provided by infection. There is no reason for someone in good health to be vaccinated after getting an infection. I have recently tested positive for covid antibodies and I am not even sure when I contracted it - my best guess is March 2020(assuming it's not a false positive). I will get tested again in a few months.
Yes our "experts" don't get in to that. The only answer given is, "but there are variants". Implying that a vaccine protects better against new variants. If this is true, I would like to know how. Doesn't seem they should, they were made before variants were out.
 
Vaga, what do you mean by observed? Sorry if I missed your line of work... I liked your post not only because it is confirmation bias, but because I think everyone's situation is different. I am not getting the vaccine before my D.R. trip. We have a free cruise from my supplier in October. That will be the deciding factor. Cruiselines are hellbent on 100% vaccination requirement. Will be interesting to see if that changes once their bottom line is affected.
 
McB, just anecdotal observation based on experiences of family members & acquaintances and readings on internet. This does not help you but it will be interesting to see the occurrence and intensity of infections(if any) after 100% vaccination requirement.
 
one person I know says he still doesn't feel right ever since getting 2nd shot, month ago. Another gotten recurring walking pneumonia since. And a third, a strange cold that he can't shake. :dunno:
Granted, there are many more who haven't complained
 
Strange cold?



Let me guess. He's one of those Colorado hippies that smokes drugs on the daily?

Prolly has popcorn lung from 'smoking gnarly shatter hash delta 5 vapes bro'.

Most likely he has gonorrhea from sleeping with gross hipster broads.


BUT


Let's just say 'the government infiltrated him with the sickness'.
 
Yes our "experts" don't get in to that. The only answer given is, "but there are variants". Implying that a vaccine protects better against new variants. If this is true, I would like to know how. Doesn't seem they should, they were made before variants were out.


don't go all super sciency on us now
 
because science doesn't happen with the "seems" after the hypothesis is stated

the answers come from testing and research has been done

like this one that shows a 10x higher levels of antibodies after 2 does of pfizer as opposed to natural immunity, which has already shown to be limited to a certain time frame in many individuals thus far.


 
kato is still alive

still hates fauci

happy to be vaccinated so people leave him alone

sorry about the regret, blitty
Brother kato, you kind of prove my point.

we should have just lied to people and they would have left us alone either way.

why are other things so official and documented: passport, DL, birth certificate, diploma.

Yet this ‘life saving shot’ is just an optional unofficial recommendation.
 
Higher Ab score does not automatically translate into better immunity. And antibodies will wane over a period of time in case of vaccine too. The main thing is do you want to prime your body again after you have been infected.

"The spike glycoprotein is the key that opens the lock, and the region of the key with all the peaks and valleys and grooves is the RBD," Cho said. "If antibodies attack the RBD, then the key won't work and the door will stay locked, preventing infection. We don't really need to make antibodies against the entire spike protein, which is more difficult to make. We can just focus on the RBD portion."

This approach differs from the three vaccines currently available in the United States to ward off COVID-19. The mRNA vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna work by delivering a set of instructions that teach the immune system how to make the entire spike protein that triggers an immune response. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine is known as a viral vector vaccine that uses a modified version of a different virus.

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Between 5 to 10 days of illness, the body develops four other antibodies – (a) Immunoglobulin G, (b) neutralizing antibody, (c) anti-spike antibody, and (d) RBD specific antibody.

“One needs to understand the main antibody which prevents the Covid infection, is the RBD specific antibody. The second in importance is neutralizing antibodies which protect from the virus," Dr Samrat D Shah, internal medicine specialist and honorary internist to the Governor of Maharashtra, said

He adds, “So if you develop antibodies towards RBD, it gives you more immunity as compared to other antibodies. It cannot be measured through titer value. Very few laboratories have just recently started doing RBD specific antibody tests."

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We really missed a good opportunity to flatten the curve and we also did serious lasting harm to society in doing so, double whammy.

The curve I'm talking about is the needless spending on old useless generations curve we could have flattened (Medicare, social security, elder care, hospice costs).

I'm happy to be vaccinated and happy that the vaccine is widely available for all. Now I can get back to living my life without being forced to care about the old people in society when they so clearly don't give a rats ass about the rest of us.