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Suicide: Cowardice or the most courageous thing a human being could ever do?

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wish i had something positive to add besides give it a day or 2 of rational thought.
but cant say I do and I wouldnt recommend taking life coaching advice from me anyway.
theres a slippery slope for some whether wired that way or choosen.
so dont it man, clear the head, reevaluate surrounding circumstances, recharge the batteries and go from there
 
wal66
Fok you Mustang Sallie. That shit is straight from Dr. Phil not Oprah.
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lol

Blitty
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lolyeah
 
Mudcat
I don't find it cowardly...Super courageous? That doesn't sound right either.
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have to vote 'neither/nor' with mudcat on this one. had a very close friend commit suicide shortly after high school, and the father of one of my best friends and college roommates do it later. don't understand how depression can lead to that, and hopefully never will. if anything, i find it cowardice of anyone to just slough suicide victims off as being cowards.
 
Matty
Bungee jumping is more fun. You get to commit suicide as often you please. Highly recommended.
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Matty knows whats up.

I think Suicide can be corageous if it's something as challenging as shoting yourself. Taking a bottle of pills and lying in bed is not corageous. I haven't really thought of this as I have a few more things i want to do before death.
 
how is pulling a trigger challenging?
would be my go to method due to ease and painless (if done right)

had a friend kill himself couple yrs ago and he shot himself twice cause 1st shot didnt do the job.
2 shots IS challenging
 
Bay Bud
have to vote 'neither/nor' with mudcat on this one. had a very close friend commit suicide shortly after high school, and the father of one of my best friends and college roommates do it later. don't understand how depression can lead to that, and hopefully never will. if anything, i find it cowardice of anyone to just slough suicide victims off as being cowards.
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Interestingly enough about of 1/3 of those who commit suicide do so in order to solve a problem, the other 2/3 are "depressed". My brother committed suicide after an unsuccessful battle with drugs and alcohol. After his first drink in 7-8th grade he was hooked, not one of those progressive alcoholics. Although well liked and successful by society's standards (educated, good looking, got laid, had money), he did it the night before he was going to have to serve 90 days for his 3rd DUI which in NJ comes with a 10 year license suspension. It was easy to say he did it because of his quart a day Smirnoff habit or the 4.0 BAC when they bought him down from the rope which was hanging from a bridge in the center of town. I can't help but be angry by how public he made it and the hurt it has bought to my mother, father and sister. I am not suggesting he was not mentally ill, I am a firm believer that most problematic drug and alcohol use (among other things even gambling) is tied to some mental issue but surely his history of being a drunk and finally all the legal stuff that come along with it pushed him over the edge.

To most that seems pretty incomprehensible (the idea of killing yourself to avoid the fear of going to jail), so outside long term depression or terminal cancer I think suicide is irrational. I can't speak for all families who have had a member who committed suicide but it truly wrecks havok, there are consequences. My life in many ways ended that day but in other ways made me a better person. I do want to say that we wanted my brother around because we loved him not for some selfish reason that others have alluded to, I get that perspective though. Honestly, I had a lot more peace in my life after I received that call, from 6 to 22 years old day in and day out I had to deal with the fighting, my parents crying, the stealing, the calls from the ER and constant worry. I kind of had a feeling it was going to happen and I was waiting for that call for many years. He knew I cared, I do however regret not doing more.
 
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Fucking really? This must have been the same night you called and left several messages which were more than likely in a different language. Something about you falling down and ripping your pants and you were sorry and got kicked out of somewhere.

Stop being a fucking pussy and enjoy this...even the bad things you seem certain are only happening to you because you are doomed. It's all part of this experience. But if you truly feel you are better off leaving this earth, by all means have at it. You pissed me off with the way you handled things with me that night and if you ever do that again, I very well might pull the trigger for you.
 
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