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Why the US is no longer the greatest country in the world anymore.

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any argument in which you are talking about the "greatest" or "best" of something, is going to be divided. opinions will inevitably vary on what metric to use in order to quantify such a vague statement.

Who is the best all time baseball player? who is the greatest of all time in the pro basketball? NHL? arguments can be made for a ton of guys for these types of things. except for wayne gretzky in the NHL that is.

and i could be wrong, but im pretty sure gretzky lives in the USA.
 
btw, we tend to think of countries as independent entities. But that's not very accurate. Almost everyone, except North Korea perhaps, is subservient and incorporated into the Western, American run order. And what we see as world wide things, are really American run things and values, pushed on the rest of the world.

One thing I'm not clear on however, (maybe you have a view on this rj) why are the European vassal states allowed to give more social benefits to their public than the Americans? Is the local population considered beneath the vassal's. Do they figure we're more likely to accept shitty treatment without rebelling, than the Europeans?
 
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MrX has been 2 weeks in Mongolia.
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Woah, nice Mongolia bump, RJ.

The Mongolians seem to be doing just fine. They have camels, after all. Camels with two humps, even.

And no one is without a basketball hoop, I'll tell you that. It may be made out of a tire rim and tied to a tree, but it's there.
 
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btw, we tend to think of countries as independent entities. But that's not very accurate. Almost everyone, except North Korea perhaps, is subservient and incorporated into the Western, American run order. And what we see as world wide things, are really American run things and values, pushed on the rest of the world.

One thing I'm not clear on however, (maybe you have a view on this rj) why are the European vassal states allowed to give more social benefits to their public than the Americans? Is the local population considered beneath the vassal's. Do they figure we're more likely to accept shitty treatment without rebelling, than the Europeans?
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I'm not sure I understand you

if you mean why western Europeans are able to employ better social assistance, in big part it's because of the size of their population

if you mean that there's some secret directive coming from a greater power allowing the western European countries to employ better social infrastructure and somehow not permitting it to be employed in America, that's just a kook way of seeing things

first I wouldn't classify western Europe nations as vassal states, Puerto Rico is a vassal state, Martinique is a vassal state

there's no secret how the world works and the role of America the CIA and others, but there isn't some secret organization issuing directives in its behalf, you're right that there's no independent nation, because the economic world order is a complicit agreement among all nations

and the most beneficiary of world trade is the US but it also contributes the world's biggest consumer market, yeah monetary intervention, subversion, covert wars, direct wars, perpetual war economy etc. are all tools of the US, but their end game is always the same- to get a piece of it, whatever economy whatever industry- you want a piece of it, that's the world's game, look at the tiny Singapore port how it enriched a nation in 30 years time, look how the Rotterdam port keeps tiny Netherlands relevant after 500 years of trading, because they get a piece of it

the reason you can, through math, fleece a casino a livable wage is because they are located in the environment where there's enough customers of a certain standard, try it in a third world country's casino and you would be kicked out in 60 minutes, you and I and all benefit from this order of Americana

imo you see a lot of the world view through American glasses, you see how much money flows through America but don't see well how much money doesn't flow through America, and there's so much others that are getting their piece- where America is not relevant at all

and with this they can afford to provide a better social infrastructure, they are not vassal they just play the game well, as well

it's part of the American history why there isn't better social infrastructure in the US, of why it was developed into an industry and not similarly to how it evolved in the western European nations, beside that imo it's an exaggeration the perception that the US is not a social benevolent country, it is, for many diverse areas the US has good social programs, ask a Danish of the flaws of their system and you'll have a conversation for hours
 
Rogie dropping some worldly knowledge bombs all over our imperialist asses! :bowdown:

Been wondering as well about these super-socialist states like Denmark and Sweden - i.e. how they make it work and how they stifle corruption among the political class & public sector.
 
I'm not saying there's any secret directive, but I am saying that the rules are made here. There's an agenda, it's not secret, it's just accepted, it's systematic. Doesn't mean it's impossible for some to benefit from it. It is in fact absolutely necessary or the power structure couldn't exist.

My impression is that Europe is occupied territory like all the rest, but they have higher standing of vassals, where as others are simply colonies. Probably because the US elites are tightly intertwined with the European elites etc.

...Pretty confident that the elites see the regular public as cows to be milked and used. Most everything I see coming out of Washington or the private sector is some idea on how to use the public to enrich some entity. The medical insurance is the most blatant thing, but everything is that way. Like I said, doesn't mean that there can't be some benefit to some people, but it does not appear a primary cause to do anything.

...So in that vain I'm wondering if the vast US public as a whole is considered a better/easier tool to be exploited. I mean, we're not really too poor to provide some things that Europeans have. We print the money for foks sake.
 
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