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Teela
Out of the 950,000 cops in America, I've dated about 80% of them. Only one wasn't a douche.
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Teela I included you in my post about being the only one without animosity towards cops and then deleted it out before posting. With all the sensitivity about strikes I didn't want you to think it was one.

Teela, do you have a cop fetish or is it more geared towards men in uniforms?
 
Sorry Daffy, but I find it hard to respect someone who is willing to enforce laws that they don't agree with all for the sake of employment. Or do you agree with every single law on the book?

My lawyer gets to pick the cases he argues and the people he represents. My doctor gets to choose whether he prescribes brand name or generics and how he bills his patients. As a cop though, I believe you have to enforce every law you know is being broken, even the ones that you disagree with or may have broken yourself in the past. I don't find that requirement to be compatible with a fundamentally decent person.

I'm sorry if you feel unfairly judged. If you can explain to me how a moral man can accept a position of power over others without significant discretion to treat others how he wishes to be treated, then I'll gladly reform my opinion about cops.
 
No. I don't want to fight people on the Internet. Just you.

I'll hold your hand through this one more time.....

You want to be the tough guy poking fun at professions (remember, this started with your helmet post).

So I'll be the guy that offers to see if you can be the same guy when I'm standing in front of you.

It's very simple. I'll let you know when I'm out in Nevada. I'll meet you downtown for a beer. Then you can tell me how big my nose is, how bald I am and what a fucking pig I am. See how easy that is? I'm looking forward to meeting you. I really mean that.

You won again because I've reached my quota for the month in e-battling in one day! Lol.

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Hi Teela.
 
Teela :bringit: :hugyou:

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Daft
No. I don't want to fight people on the Internet. Just you.

I'll hold your hand through this one more time.....

You want to be the tough guy poking fun at professions (remember, this started with your helmet post).

So I'll be the guy that offers to see if you can be the same guy when I'm standing in front of you.

It's very simple. I'll let you know when I'm out in Nevada. I'll meet you downtown for a beer. Then you can tell me how big my nose is, how bald I am and what a fucking pig I am. See how easy that is? I'm looking forward to meeting you. I really mean that.

You won again because I've reached my quota for the month in e-battling in one day! Lol.

Gamelive.com

Hi Teela.
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Wrong again. Actually, the helmet post came AFTER you told me "Anytime. Anywhere." Not to mention it's not the first time you've made ridiculous Internet threats. Revisionist history is pretty suitable for "decent" cops, huh?
 
RogueScholar
Sorry Daffy, but I find it hard to respect someone who is willing to enforce laws that they don't agree with all for the sake of employment. Or do you agree with every single law on the book?

My lawyer gets to pick the cases he argues and the people he represents. My doctor gets to choose whether he prescribes brand name or generics and how he bills his patients. As a cop though, I believe you have to enforce every law you know is being broken, even the ones that you disagree with or may have broken yourself in the past. I don't find that requirement to be compatible with a fundamentally decent person.

I'm sorry if you feel unfairly judged. If you can explain to me how a moral man can accept a position of power over others without significant discretion to treat others how he wishes to be treated, then I'll gladly reform my opinion about cops.
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Easy answer, Scholar.

It's called discretion. You absolutely, positively do not need to arrest someone.

You can toss a joint down the drain, pretend you don't see someone who is trespassing etc. The list goes on and on and on.
 
wal66
Teela I included you in my post about being the only one without animosity towards cops and then deleted it out before posting. With all the sensitivity about strikes I didn't want you to think it was one.

Teela, do you have a cop fetish or is it more geared towards men in uniforms?
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I don't look for cops to date. Two of them weren't cops when we started seeing each other. One was a cop that pulled me over (and I didn't get a ticket). The last was in the military but had a leave of absence from the department for one enlistment. If I had known he was double on my "DO NOT DATE" list (military and police), I probably would have stayed away.
 
Scholar, no doubt it can be argued that there is certain hypocrisy with a cop enforcing a law that he can’t totally agree with but a society without laws or enforcers of said laws would be a society that eventually become extinct.

When lawlessness ensues we have to police ourselves. This leads to vigilantism and society is left up to interpretation. This is a condensed argument but it covers the basics.

Scholar not all attorney’s have a choice in who they defend or prosecute, court appointed public defenders and assistant D.A.’s come to mind. As for doctors don’t you imagine there are doctors out there that are bound to treat a patient who is terminally ill when they really feel it would be much more humane to help them die?

Scholar, I realize entering a debate with you is dangerous ground but I have been in sarcastic mode so long I just need a break.


P.S. this is in no way an attempt to defend Daft.
 
Daft
Easy answer, Scholar.

It's called discretion. You absolutely, positively do not need to arrest someone.

You can toss a joint down the drain, pretend you don't see someone who is trespassing etc. The list goes on and on and on.
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But discretion is the biggest part of the problem, dude. The fact that there are so many laws of questionable benefit to society and that they are enforced inconsistently means that the dumbest thing in the world is to trust a cop. You have no way to know what you're getting, whether it's someone who is going to have some perspective about the situation or just a shithead looking to use his authority over you.

When you use that discretion, aren't you breaking your promise to the "system" that you will enforce the laws on the books regardless of your personal feeling about them? It seems that no matter how a cop behaves, he's fucking somebody over, and that's why I don't think good people choose it as a career.
 
RogueScholar
But discretion is the biggest part of the problem, dude. The fact that there are so many laws of questionable benefit to society and that they are enforced inconsistently means that the dumbest thing in the world is to trust a cop. You have no way to know what you're getting, whether it's someone who is going to have some perspective about the situation or just a shithead looking to use his authority over you.

When you use that discretion, aren't you breaking your promise to the "system" that you will enforce the laws on the books regardless of your personal feeling about them? It seems that no matter how a cop behaves, he's fucking somebody over, and that's why I don't think good people choose it as a career.
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Couldn't that be said about the majority of careers?
 
wal66
Scholar, no doubt it can be argued that there is certain hypocrisy with a cop enforcing a law that he can’t totally agree with but a society without laws or enforcers of said laws would be a society that eventually become extinct.

When lawlessness ensues we have to police ourselves. This leads to vigilantism and society is left up to interpretation. This is a condensed argument but it covers the basics.

Scholar not all attorney’s have a choice in who they defend or prosecute, court appointed public defenders and assistant D.A.’s come to mind. As for doctors don’t you imagine there are doctors out there that are bound to treat a patient who is terminally ill when they really feel it would be much more humane to help them die?

Scholar, I realize entering a debate with you is dangerous ground but I have been in sarcastic mode so long I just need a break.


P.S. this is in no way an attempt to defend Daft.
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I get what you're saying Wal, but my comments weren't intended as an academic review on the different methods by which a society can set forth and enforce boundaries on its citizens, but rather as a more realistic view of how law enforcement officers reconcile their participation in a system which is just as broken as the ones putting people to death for adultery in some Islamic states. Obviously we can't fix the system overnight and we still need cops, but when there are so many ways to make a living, why would anyone with a conscience choose to work in a corrupt system like law enforcement? That's my argument with Daft, rather than defend his participation why not just admit that money trumps morality, at least to him?

I would levy the same accusations against a district attorney who prosecuted someone for a law they had previously broken or a doctor who allowed a legal matter to interfere with his Hippocratic Oath to first do no harm. I have a huge problem with society's ability to look the other way for people to be hypocrites in the name of a "greater good" or even just their own self-interest.

Obviously I'm aware that my black-and-white views make it so hard to interact with society that they've left me growing pot in relative isolation since what passes for a social structure in Western countries is nothing more than a cover for a system bent on exploitation and subjugation. Nonetheless, I can't help but try to point out the ugliness to anyone willing to listen, in the hopes that eventually we can live in a world that reflects the promise of humanity and not the seedy underbelly.
 
Scholar I watched a documentary about pot the other day. It was all about how hemp is a great source for thread and how during the war they made rope out of it and stuff. It went on into more and more detail about the comparisons between different drugs, alcohol, cigs and pot.

I didn't become a convert and still can't stand the smell of the stuff but it was evident that there is a conspiracy to keep pot illegal.
 
Blitty
Couldn't that be said about the majority of careers?
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It probably could, but most careers don't afford the people in them authority to change people's lives. For the ones that do, I don't think there can be a standard too high for them to labor under.

If I were a despot, law enforcement would be the toughest possible way to make a living, where those who chose that career would voluntarily relinquish the civil rights they labored to protect for others and live under a microscope to prove their worthiness to hold that authority. Instead we encourage the opposite, where cops cover for each others' misdeeds and their position makes it easier for them to behave with utter disregard for the moral precepts which they're supposed to represent.
 
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