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And my plays.

Rashad
Bisping
Russow
Brilz
Sanchez
Sadollah
Lauzon

parlay
Evans
Lauzon
1 unit to win 8 units


I can't wait for the energy in the bar once that Rampage-Rashad fight is about to start. It's gonna be a great fight (I hope). I'm banking on Rashad's quickness and versatility to get the better of Mr. T 2.

Bisping will win and he will win easily. And I hate Bisping, but this line is way off. Cash it!

I don't see too much of a difference between Duffee and Russow besides the fact that Duffee looks like he was born on a weight bench. Whatever. At big plus odds I'm on Russow.

Biggest upset of night and I'm making biggest bet on it. Time for Nog to hang it up. Brilz FMW!

I'm on Sanchez small. The whole world is on Sanchez. Something is weird about this line :light: and I won't be left holding the bag for much should the upset occur.

Amir Sadollah is my favorite Iranian-Irish fighter with a mullet. Plus hes' fighting an Asian. Always fade Asians in the UFC. Go Amir.

I love me some Efrain, but the last time I saw him fight, he was doing his worst Stretch Armstrong impersonation via arm lock. Give me the dog with the black sheep Lauzon brother.

Parlay
Evans
Lauzon
1 unit to win 8 units.

Holler.
 
love those plays, might do something stupid and make Bisbing a gigantic play, line is way off imo like you said

I think you may be thinking of the wrong Nog here, this is his little brother, the Guy who just brutally Ko'd Luis Cane and the only man to ever rock Shogun, he won a brazilian gold medal in boxing and has world class jiu-jitsu, his career is on the upswing while his brother big nog is headed down hill, Brillz should have the better wrestling so it's not too far out to think he grinds out a decision

One time Russow!!!!!!
 
did a short write up on the amir fight, friend of mine came back with some nice counter points

here's my writeup

So round 1 is mostly all Kim, after the round you hear Browns corner telling him how to execute with the proper clinch technique lol . Round two starts and Brown begins to push the pace ( this could be key, Kim looks very uncomfortable fighting off his back leg, one thing Amir is Great at is setting a fast pace and consistently forcing the action, could work against him as well if he gets too over anxious and allows Kim to time and set-up his takedowns a little better)

minute into the round and you can visibly see Brown is the one with a little more Gas, He clinches and lands a few nice body shots forcing KIm into the cage. At this point Kim's takedowns are repeatedly being stuffed( who do you give the edge to in takedown defense, brown or amir? personally I think people make a little too much of amir's lack of tdd against CB Dolloway, I could be wrong but I think he's gonna have a lot easier time defending Kim's Judo opposed to Dolloway's double legs, doesn't mean a whole lot since both fighter were still raw at that point in time but if you watch when Amir fought Matt Brown on the Ultimate fighter show Brown was tossed around like a rag doll on what looked like a Judo throw from Amir, forget how the fight ended but I'm pretty sure Amir subbed Brown)

second round continues and Brown is now the one with the successful takedowns, Brown land a few more nice knees to the body from the clinch and just wears on Kim against the cage, at this point Kim just looks completely gassed and Brown end the round with a sloppy takedown.

3rd round starts and Kim begins to find his second wind and lands a takedown and ends up in side control, isn't strong enough to keep him there though, Matt pops right back up( this is another thing I think could be a huge factor, even in the first round Kim's top control looked a little sloppy at times imo, Brown was easily able to standup through out the fight. I will say Kim's top control looked a lot better against T.J grant but I think Amir will be a little more explosive from the bottom, Grant had one of the worse game plans I've seen from a fighter, personally I think his striking is a lot more refined than Kims but for some reason he was convinced that he had to try and out wrestle Kim, he was the one who initiated most of the takedowns) 2 min's into round 3 and Brown has Kim clinched up against the cage, nothing serious landing but he sneaks in a few more knees tot he body. Kim gets a nice takedown with 2 mins left and ends the fight some nice gnp


I think this fight with amir is going to look almost identical to the Brown fight, expect Kim to land some easy takedowns in the first and if Amir can weather the early storm I see the fight slowly starting to shift in Favor of him.. I see Amir possibly stuffing Kim's takedowns late in the fight, wouldn't surprise me if he follows Brown and even shoots for his own takedowns, he had some nice double legs in his last fight although Brad Blackburn was seriously rocked on both takedown attempts, its the technique that counts lol. the two biggest factors in this fight imo is how hard Amir has been working on his scrambles and how effective his pace is in wearing down Kim. Amir is one of my smallest plays on the Card so I'm honestly not going to be surprised if this goes a lot like The Kim vs Grant fight, still think a lot of Kim's success in that fight had to do with Grant's horrible game plan and willingness to initiate the takedowns


my friend's writeup

his fight between Kim and Amir is a tough one for me to call. There's a lot of uncertainty for me simply because time after time I've watched Amir get smacked around only to pull something out of his arse to win the fight. And I can see Kim beating him down, only to get tired in the third round and lose the fight. People have alluded to Kim's conditioning as the key to this fight and I find myself going along with that notion.

Now I'm going to have to disagree with you about Kim's fight with Mike Brown. I've been watching that fight quite a bit in the past couple of days and the conclusion that I've come to is that Brown tried execute a plum clinch on Kim but it didn't work. Moreover, he shouldn't have even tried to use that technique on Kim in the first place.

Simply put Brown was the smaller fighter and you do not use that clinch (dirty boxing or the plum clinch) in a fight against a taller, stronger opponent. With the plum clinch you have to move your hands from your opponents neck to a spot that's almost to the top of his head. If you're fighting someone the same height or even better someone shorter than you it's a great weapon to use. You're using leverage, not just strength, to force the head down by pulling at a 45 degree angle. Against a taller fighter, it gets increasingly difficult to move your hands into the correct position, the taller he is the more your arms get extended. You lose your leverage by reaching. If there's no leverage then there's no head control, and you can forget about the knees.

If you watch round one, Brown tries for the plum clinch and knee but Kim not only sees what was coming he was able to power out of it. Brown tried shifing to rabbit knees to the body but Kim countered, trapped a knee, and took him down. Kim turned it into a grappling match and Brown's was focused on defense.

This Saturday night, if both guys come into the fight healthy, I think Kim's got the size and strength advantage. And if they clinch early in the fight, Kim's going to get underhooks, pin Amir up against the fence, and eventually take him down to the mat. If Amir does decide to clinch and grapple with Kim, he's got get belly to belly or go for a single leg. Kim has a tendency to give up the single leg quickly in hopes of catching the opponent with a wizzer. If Amir can do that, then he can transition to using knees and elbows off a clinch. Or he could release, get some distance and force Kim into a standup fight.

Kim's ground and pound is good but it's still pretty raw, he looks to strike if he's got top position, and at times he does get over extended. Amir's guardwork has proceeded to a point where he could tap Kim with an armbar. At the very least, he should be able to keep many of Kim's strikes from getting through.

Still what we could see is a fight where much of it is spent up against the fence, or where Kim takes Amir down numerous times, unable to finish, but grinds out the decision. Or maybe a fight where Kim has early success only to gas which allows Amir to take over with his stand up and get a tko or even a split decision. And I find myself switching back and forth between those scenarios.

I'm left asking the question: how is Kim's conditioning?




Why the fuk am I still awake??
 
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