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I got diagnosed with OSA (Obstructive Sleep Apnea) about 10 months ago (I mentioned this I think at the time). I do not fit the profile of someone who has OSA (85% of people diagnosed are overweight). During a sleep study it was revealed that I wake up 21 times per hour while sleeping on my back or side and 81 times an hour while sleeping on my back. :selfbash:

If I'm mistaken, my online BFF Plommer has OSA as well. I think his treatment is working for him (I hope).



My treatment for OSA has not gone well at all. I won't get into a long drawn out explanation on why it hasn't gone well (no one wants to be bored with that) but the compliance rates for CPAP machines is very low and I've been way more tired than normal lately (I haven't had a dream in at least 2 weeks). I have yet another appointment with the sleep dr because this level of fatigue is just not acceptable.


I created this thread not for sympathy but so I have a place to post dumb stuff when I'm really tired and and don't want to muck up the Random Thoughts thread with nonsense.


During some down time I found this:


Randy Gardner holds the scientifically documented record for the longest period of time a human being has intentionally gone without sleep not using stimulants of any kind. In 1964—as a 17-year-old high school student in San Diego, California—Gardner stayed awake for 264 hours (eleven days), breaking the previous record of 260 hours held by Tom Rounds of Honolulu.

Gardner's record attempt was attended by Stanford sleep researcher Dr. William C. Dement. Gardner's health was monitored by Lt. Cmdr. John J. Ross. Accounts of Gardner's sleep-deprivation experience and medical response became widely known among the sleep research community
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Pretty wild huh?
 
Daft, my CPAP machine is a lifesaver.

I look forward to putting on my mask and actually getting sleep at night.

I have a huge fear of not having my CPAP machine available to me.

PS: I have seen units for sale on Kijiji for reasonable prices.

PPS: I went HUGH on the Twins/Padres UNDER 8 runs. Score was 5-0 Twins after 1 inning.
 
Plom, do you have the full face mask? I've tried the nasal pillows and the full face mask. I have a ResMed S9 Elite machine.

When I use mine I wake up in the middle of the night and I feel like a WWE wrestler is smothering me with a pillow.
 
RayRay
if i sleep on my back, i get wicked and i mean wake up fucking punching the air wicked nightmares... 81 times is a lot...i guess you have tried ambien or ambesleep etc... gl
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I don't have insomonia, Ray. I can fall asleep fine.

I have OSA:

Obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) or obstructive sleep apnea syndrome is the most common type of sleep apnea and is caused by obstruction of the upper airway. It is characterized by repetitive pauses in breathing during sleep, despite the effort to breathe, and is usually associated with a reduction in blood oxygen saturation. These pauses in breathing, called apneas (literally, "without breath"), typically last 20 to 40 seconds.

The individual with OSA is rarely aware of having difficulty breathing, even upon awakening. It is recognized as a problem by others witnessing the individual during episodes or is suspected because of its effects on the body
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Man that really sucks. I guess it relates to the nose/breathing issues I remember you talking about?

I can't even comprehend what it means to wake up 81 times an hour. That's more than once a minute. It takes me more than a minute to get back to sleep when I wake up. I don't know how that works but it sure can't be good.
 
Daft
Plom, do you have the full face mask? I've tried the nasal pillows and the full face mask. I have a ResMed S9 Elite machine. The air blowing directly in my mouth made me feel like I was choking/suffocating.

When I use mine I wake up in the middle of the night and I feel like a WWE wrestler is smothering me with a pillow.
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Daft I have a nasal mask and nasal pillows, I switch from one to the other as required. I could not get used to the full face mask.

The pillows are better for getting more air and don't get dislodged while sleeping but the nasal mask is much more comfortable, the problem with the mask is that it often shifts and leaks air during the night, the problem with the pillows is the marks the straps leave on my face when I wake up.


Go see the doc pal, and don't give up, its not uncommon for it to take a while before figuring out the best solution.

I too stop breathing in the 80 range without my CPAP.
 
Daft
This is a job for Polaroid.


Plommer, what led to your original diagnosis?

Also, how long after your diagnosis did you find the right mask/CPAP pressure etc?
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Daft, before my diagnosis I used to wake up in the middle of the night from a deep sleep frightened beyond belief.
I thought someone was trying to kill me.

I would wake up suddenly thinking I had a bad dream or suffering from "night terrors" - I would be huffing and puffing and my heart-rate was sky high.

At least a few times a week I would wake up in the morning with all the lights on in my bedroom and would vaguely remember getting up in the middle of the night with the "fight or flight" response.

It was worse when I wasn't at home, a couple of times on vacation in Florida I trashed my parents guest room in the middle of the night because I couldn't find the light switch while in full panic mode.
This also happened to me while sleeping in guest rooms in Cuba.

I never got used to this but learned to live with it.

A couple of years ago I shared a motel room with a buddy and the next morning he was ready to kill me because I kept him awake with my loud snoring and long pauses without breathing. He said it was scary and annoying for him, he thought I was gonna die.

I decided to see my doctor and he sent me to a sleep specialist who had me go to the sleep clinic for testing.

The result was me being diagnosed with both types of sleep apnea and that I was stopping breathing 80 times per hour.

I got a sleep apnea machine in August 2009 and it was set at 12cm. I started out with the nasal mask.
On my follow up sleep clinic visit they found I was still stopping breathing at 12cm and bumped me up to 14 cm's and I had fewer apneas.

So I will have been on the CPAP for 2 years in August, it has made a huge difference in my life, I enjoy going to bed at night knowing I will be getting quality rest/sleep. I can't live without my machine & mask.

I was lucky, I had no problem getting used to the nasal mask and sleeping with a hose attached to my face.

So thats my story.

RogueJuror
plommer do you take your little sleepy machine thingy toy to Cuba with you?
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Juror, the fucking machine goes everywhere with me pal, no exceptions.
 
This might piss you off a little but I hit the pillow, am out in less than two minutes and don't wake up until the alarm goes off.

I also don't get headaches. I get hangovers, sure. But never had a regular headache.

I hope you can get this shit figured out and some sleep Daft.
 
I really appreciate you taking the time out to tell that story, Plommer. Wow, I just assumed every OSA story was the same as mine but yours is totally different.

No room trashing, no waking up in a panic. I can "sleep" for 7, 8, 9 or 10 hours yet when I wake up I'm completely exhausted. Plain and simple.


I got a sleep apnea machine in August 2009 and it was set at 12cm. I started out with the nasal mask.
On my follow up sleep clinic visit they found I was still stopping breathing at 12cm and bumped me up to 14 cm's and I had fewer apneas.
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I think this is what my problem may be. I may need to get the pressure bumped up. I'm fuckin hurting right now from lack of sleep.


I also don't get headaches
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Cougar, I've been getting low grade headaches the past 3 weeks from this. This is a new symptom for me.
 
Daft
I really appreciate you taking the time out to tell that story, Plommer. Wow, I just assumed every OSA story was the same as mine but yours is totally different.

No room trashing, no waking up in a panic. I can "sleep" for 7, 8, 9 or 10 hours yet when I wake up I'm completely exhausted. Plain and simple.
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I also was tired most of the time before using the CPAP, obviously because I wasn't getting quality sleep.

My specialist in Toronto is excellent, he has said that sometimes its a long process trying to figure out what works best for each individual.
Its a work in progress, lets hope you see some improvement in your situation.
 
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