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Wow Mudcat, just listened to it the first time and I'm blown away. No empty platitudes here, I loved it. I loved the common theme that you expressed through several different styles as the piece progresses, and I see how it would lend itself to obvious evolution in successive movements. I'm gonna go back and listen a couple times, but I didn't want to forget my first impressions. Here goes:

- My first observation was that your first three sections seemed to perfectly represent a trip across the globe from India through Egypt to resolution in a style musically reminiscant of the great Romantic composers of Eastern Europe. I could hear sitars and a female trio singing distinctly Hindustani chords behind that first section. The second section felt Egyptian in that it seemed to rely on an unheard percussion section to add to the dramatic intensity which was building. Perhaps some cymbals and a synth Egyptian flute behind it? The third section was the masterpiece, obvious room for a rock organ to create the chord wall you need to bring it all home. Just first impressions, these could be all wrong.

Also, right before the 3:00 mark in the video it seems like you almost rush the transition. How about a melodic interlude, a la "This Song Has No Title" by Elton John? That sort of flute on top of your piano part might give you the chance to take 8-12 bars to "set the stage" as it were. You could then reprise it at the end, a single note dangling off the final piano key, fading away behind your 12-stringed guitar? Again, just one man's opinion.

Thanks for sharing Mudcat, I'd write more but I would never be able to do it justice without listening at least a half dozen more times.
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This is very good and thoughtful and helpful. Specific points aside it makes me realize that, when the time comes that the songs have all been written and it is time to start arranging and then recording, I need to have more creative people around. Not just because I am limited in what I can do instrumentally, but the bouncing around of ideas gets the juices flowing so much more than sitting here by myself.

I guess that's an obvious statement. One of the guys I will be watching the Super Bowl with plays in a band so I'll make a point of bringing up the topic with him.

Your specific points are all very interesting. It is unfortunate that this YouTube recording leaves out some of the nuances of the song. My camera's mic loves the piano so much that I ended up having to play unnaturally quiet all the way through just to keep from drowning everything out. The song is actually punctuated with more highs and lows but there was no way to pull that off in these conditions. Which doesn't make your points less valid. The idea of an extended instrumental intro - flute is a good idea - into the transition, I like very much. There is a part of the old Genesis song, The Firth of Fifth, that is coming to mind as a sort of model.

Maybe I should shake up my thinking entirely. My brain clings to the conventional idea that songs need to be short and, at over 4.5 minutes, I am already out of line here. But I could simply drop that line of thinking and embrace the album rock concept more and be more patient with all the transitions.

Cool.
 
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Bread
Muddy this was my favorite line with I listened the first time. Good stuff.

He predicted there would come a day, but not today
He’d be proven right
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Thank you. That in fact was the first line that was written. I had a concept and I closed my eyes to think about where to take it and that was the first thing that came out.
 
I just listened again while reading the lyrics (I have to do that quite often). Wow, you are an amazing story teller through music. I love this song.

Did you happen to write this after reading Shutter Island?
 
Thank you. No I haven't read Shutter Island although the trailers for the movie have intrigued the hell out of me.

The inspiration for this was personal memories of the inside of an institution where the doors only open one way. Previous life.
 
I read the book a few months back. I am not sure how the movie will work. Whomever developed the trailer made a MAJOR screw up. They had to postpone the release for five months in hopes people would forget what they saw in the trailer.

After hearing your song last night, I asked Bread the following question:

"Do you think people do drugs to become creative or do creative people do drugs because they are creative?"

Do you feel me here?
 
No doubt in my mind that creative people do drugs because they are creative, and also because being a creative spirit is a very vulnerable place and drugs help a person to retreat into their own self-satisfaction when confronted with abuse and intolerance. If I'm wrong about this, don't tell me, I'm vulnerable.
 
Re the movie Shutter Island, yes, it has been a long time since I saw the first trailers. That does not seem like a good sign. And the fact that they did not bother releasing it in Oscar season is another red flag.

Release delays never seem to happen due to awesome stuff going on. Hoping for the best though. In Scorcese we trust.



I agree with the conclusion that creative people do drugs because they are creative. Drugs sometimes created the illusion of making me creative - and sometimes it wasn't an illusion; sometimes I would come up with very interesting ideas when high - but I like to think I am still creative with the drugs removed.

Being creative is generally considered a positive thing but that is not a black and white issue. It is often part and parcel with too much thinking which, while handy for artistic outlets, is not so great for day-to-day life in terms of self-consciousness or insomnia or whatever. Those things can lead to self-medication - sometimes to excess.

I have been hanging around the local recovery community for almost 20 years now and (in my completely unscientific observation) the percentage of that community that is creative is higher than society as a whole.
 
I dunno Hawk. I look out my windows a lot too....and only because my neighbors are all black and Mexican.

And I don't mind blacks or Mexicans...I just distrust people who don't look like me.

LOL THAT'S RACIST!

No but really all my neighbors are black or Mexican. The Mexicans have seemed to bonded with me because I trade stories with them. The black neighbors "allow" their dog to shit in my yard.

Stay tuned. Not because they're black, but because I'm going to burn a cross in their yard because it is easier than burning a pentagram.
 
Bread
I dunno Hawk. I look out my windows a lot too....and only because my neighbors are all black and Mexican.

And I don't mind blacks or Mexicans...I just distrust people who don't look like me.

LOL THAT'S RACIST!

No but really all my neighbors are black or Mexican. The Mexicans have seemed to bonded with me because I trade stories with them. The black neighbors "allow" their dog to shit in my yard.

Stay tuned. Not because they're black, but because I'm going to burn a cross in their yard because it is easier than burning a pentagram.
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Noooo, the other neighbors are Rican. Remember....he has an Uncle in the Superior Court or some shit? The Mexicans moved out RIGHT after you went over there to drink with them and started asking for their story. There were about 10 of them living in the same house...I am sure you can draw your own conclusions. They probably thought you were Immigration undercover. Cat told me that they lived in that house for years and years and she was surprised they moved. LOL!~
 
Looking out your windows a lot is a sign of living too close to other humans. I don't look out my windows much because none of my neighbors live close enough to see. Just the same ol' trees outside, day after day, year after year.
 
Robyn I try to forget that the Mexicans moved out and the loud mouth Ricans moved in. I don't like them.

I wonder if they ever go "God I hate those quiet white people next door!"

lol?


I loved the Mexicans....they were my drinking buddies. And man did they have some stories.



Hawk, no boonies.
 
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