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Psychology of Poverty

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reno cool
Is this supposed to be taken seriously?
In what world you live in? What % of people produce anything worthwhile? 10% maybe?
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Of course it's supposed to be taken seriously. I never said they had to do anything worthwhile, just enough to offset their use of communal resources. When humans were hunter-gatherers, not everyone contributed equally to the most pressing needs of food and shelter, but those who contributed less had to directly justify their role to the rest of the clan. That's what I'm referring to when I stress that any form of charity has to be dispensed by those who are best able to assess the recipient's efforts to be productive, and that can only be their neighbors.
 
RogueScholar
Of course it's supposed to be taken seriously. I never said they had to do anything worthwhile, just enough to offset their use of communal resources. When humans were hunter-gatherers, not everyone contributed equally to the most pressing needs of food and shelter, but those who contributed less had to directly justify their role to the rest of the clan. That's what I'm referring to when I stress that any form of charity has to be dispensed by those who are best able to assess the recipient's efforts to be productive, and that can only be their neighbors.
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What time period were these social norms occurring? I'm really not certain you could prove any of this.
 
I think Polaroid made the best point. It's the system that's broken, not the principle. If people need immediate help with sustenance, I see no problem with helping them get on their feet. However, if someone chooses to abuse it, then that aid should be foregone.
 
MonkeyF0cker
This confounds me. How is health care a right, but not food?
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i have no problem with literally giving someone food (soup kitchens, etc) to someone who needs it. i do have a problem with people being able to live off of welfare alone while making no attempt to actually get off of welfare.

i will concede that the provision of basic medical care and food can be considered welfare. so be it. providing a means of survival to someone who would likely otherwise die falls beyond any concept of "free market" in my opinion. this is not what i was referring to when i said earlier that welfare should be considered theft. you have to draw the line somewhere.
 
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reno cool
If the public got the bailout the banks get they wouldn't have to abuse the welfare system.

You're contemplating the very end result of a rotten social and economic system. Wake the fuck up.
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the social and economic system that created the number one supernation in the world for 100 years is reason that we have a bunch of lazy deadbeat greedy worthless americans??
 
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