Papa George - Is this you?

[Bread]

I will not accept a "don't post them here because they could be fake" response George. How about this, I will post them with a SIGNED AFFIDAVIT that they are genuine and I will provide the admin with the notarized copy and you can provide the admin with a SIGNED AFFIDAVIT that they are false and send a notarized copy to the admin... Sound fair?

 

[PapaGeorge]

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[assassin]

Ironically one only has to read through this thread carefully to see George's obvious lies and contradictions. Just read the thread carefully, can you spot any glaring inconsistencies?

 

[kato]

Fiveteamer = Professional pot stirrer. I thought everyone knew that by now.


Assassin, a moderator will be along soon. Hopefully they green light you. This is fun!

this...

 

[PapaGeorge]

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[assassin]

Well, George has already stated that he does not want the documents published here so I will (for the time being) honor that.

 

[wal66]

Assassin, George and his inconsistencies were spotted long before this thread ever started. I believe on his initial thread some requested a BS Meter smiley.

 

[assassin]

Assassin, George and his inconsistencies were spotted long before this thread ever started. I believe on his initial thread some requested a BS Meter smiley.

I know... I was just hoping maybe Fiver could look through and understand that perhaps everyone is not just jumping on his friend because it is the *in thing* to do.

 

[pally]

if that is papageorge in those pics he is CUTE and ADORABLE he looks like an actor I cant remember who

he is SOOO CUTE

when I was his age though I was 10 times hotter, but still, he is CUTE

 

[MrX]

Assassin, can you give us a breakdown? How many victims, how much money, etc?

 

[wal66]

Assassin, you don't explain things to Fiver, you either antagonize him or ignore him all else is futile.

 

[assassin]

Assassin, can you give us a breakdown? How many victims, how much money, etc?

We have at least four victims; one of whom was able to recover some money through the chargeback process. His actions have included theft, identity theft, interstate fraud, blackmail, copyright infringement, and others... And, yes, even though Mr. Pappas is in denial for now he stands to face some serious legal consequences. Having talked extensively to Mr. Pappas I am convinced that he does not comprehend the serious nature of what has occurred. I think since he so far in life has been able to use cunning to escape from many situations he believes it can save him here. unfortunately the reality is that the legal system will not care how crafty he is with his words.

 

[kato]

this took a second...to refresh...

below is the the first part of the thread from shari; followed by george pappas, jr's replies throughout the thread so far



Papa George - Is this you?
I saw you mention to someone on here to hook up with you on Facebook and you said your name was GBJ. Are you this guy?

http://forum.sbrforum.com/private-zo...her-sites.html

Beware of this guy - Please read. He is starting other sites

GBJ Selling HotSportsPlays.com & SportsPicksandNews.com

scam check - scam check scam check - scam check okokocontact me - contact me contact me - contact me okokoFlippa - Flippa Flippa - Flippa okoko

When a Flippa buyer contacts me looking for help recovering his funds from a potential scammer I never know what to expect. Some times it is just the buyer being anxious, sometimes it is a misunderstanding, and some times the buyer has indeed been scammed.

That is the case here.

I was contacted to look into a case regarding this Flippa auction. The buyer claimed that the seller had essentially taken his $4200 payment and not delivered the website promised. After some basic investigation into the matter I found the buyers claims to be true. I verified the payment had been made and even talked with the seller who had STILL been trying to sell hotsportsplays.com to yet another buyer.

The seller eventually admitted the issue and even revealed that there had been another victim. Although the seller, GBJ., didnt take personal responsibility for the scam, he did knowingly (and unknowingly) reveal a bunch of useful information. And, again, he did admit to taking payment from these victims without delivering the site or refunding their money.

I talked to GBJ about coming clean on the scam and refunding those who had been burned. In working with the victims I was sure they would be willing to work out payment arrangements to recover their lost funds, but GBJ seemed to have no interest in returning the money, only in protecting himself.

GBJ still has not returned any of the funds to the victims and he eventually did resell (the already 2x sold-and-paid-for) www.hotsportsplays.com to this guy. The sale was made on June 14th for $690 GBJ was nice enough to post a screenshot himself which was found in his latest Flippa listing.

HERE IS A SCREENSHOT OF THE PAYMENT FOR THE SITE ($690) ON JUNE 14:

(Click for Larger View)

HERE IS A SCREENSHOT OF THE TWO PREVIOUS PAYMENTS FOR THE SITE ($4200, $1800):

(Click for Larger View)

These were collected from GBJ own listing on Flippa. But, in case he makes changes they have been archived online.

An IC3 complaint (I#1006111710133181?) has been filled on GBJ and over 40 pages of documentation has been obtained in the case. I do hope GBJ (and Friend) will come clean and make restitution on the victims of this scam. If they wish to contact me I will help them get on the right track making restitution and heading in a direction away from online scams and into online success.

I can assure you, this is not me. This is the 2nd time I have been accused of a scam in one day on this forum. Very nice

I dont recall saying i sold a site on flippa, i recall saying I could sell it there...but now that I see this site, wow...this is actually interesting, funny thing is...I talk to the guy who bought my hotsportsplays site everyday...interesting.

I scammed no one Blitty. I talk to the guy who purchased my HSP site everyday through email. And I dont see any evidence this is him posting this stuff about me.

Did someone post all this on SBR?

I owned Hotsportsplays yes and i sold the site and transferred the domain to the owner, it is now called hotsportscappers.com

What is all this pappysports and sports picks and news stuff? That is my question.

Ugh please either this is competition or someone playing a joke or I dont know what, either or I could care less honestly.
I would normally be pissed off at this kind of stuff, but whats the point? Get all hyped over some guy posting on SBR? Where is that gonna go besides to private zone?
This scamsite appears it gets no traffic, at least not much at all..so who cares IMO

Is this sarcasm?

LOL where did this picture come from!? LOL

And the face..? How the hell? Wow cant trust anyone online

yes but im very camera shy how would anyone get me doing that face? Unless it was stolen from youtube in a video that i had up a few years ago...idk

This is unbelieveable

And for GL to keep this on here just enables them and makes it worse.

Honestly, If this was me, I would just leave this forum and never even respond to this.

Another thing is if this was real...why arent they spamming the shit outta my website i have now? With these type of comments, I dont have a block on my comments, but I will soon..

Or emailing my monitor? Or posting on my monitors forum? Or me not in jail? idk this is crazy wow

I will be, im working on it now as we speak.

The only thing I can say about the transactions is that it had to come from a "potential" buyer when the site was for sale. I sent the proof of income to about 9 different people. And of those people I had 3 ready to buy and it came down to money and I went with someone completely towards the other direction, not online, but a person I know face to face.

Yeh one reason why I sold it, the name did suck. But it still made great income for what was made of it, surprisingly. I expected it to crash and burn after 4 months of work, kinda how I expect my site now to end, but surprisingly, still running.

Maybe some of those old clients came to my new site after the domain was changed? And this is why all this is going on? IDK like I said I am emailing the buyer now and calling him tomorrow.

Again this is all off of an old site I no longer run or own, I never had those "rules" for a month package, as you can see my new site only has 1 and 7 day pass'

Also why are all of these sites alike? Then this sportspicksandnews one is int he complete different direction? Looks like somebody created it with notepad and basic html code

I explained how possibly they got the screenshots
Im not going on SBR and talking about this, I will deal with this on my own.
I sold the site back in...Mayish? Which is odd cause they are saying there are transactions from June, right? Photoshopped, lovely

To delete the thread and allow me to handle this on my own.
And for him to be coming over here and causing drama on this forum, is ridiculous, and this will force me to never post here again.

Dude, the avatar, please change it

I answered, I went back and answered them, I over looked the questions, sorry

Someone isnt happy, but I will say this if this is the owner of HSP

I will NOT give a refund, after he two faced me everyday just to do this shit and get some free money back.

I will be, im working on it now as we speak.

The only thing I can say about the transactions is that it had to come from a "potential" buyer when the site was for sale. I sent the proof of income to about 9 different people. And of those people I had 3 ready to buy and it came down to money and I went with someone completely towards the other direction, not online, but a person I know face to face.

Yeh one reason why I sold it, the name did suck. But it still made great income for what was made of it, surprisingly. I expected it to crash and burn after 4 months of work, kinda how I expect my site now to end, but surprisingly, still running.

Maybe some of those old clients came to my new site after the domain was changed? And this is why all this is going on? IDK like I said I am emailing the buyer now and calling him tomorrow.

Again this is all off of an old site I no longer run or own, I never had those "rules" for a month package, as you can see my new site only has 1 and 7 day pass'

Also why are all of these sites alike? Then this sportspicksandnews one is int he complete different direction? Looks like somebody created it with notepad and basic html code

I explained how possibly they got the screenshots
Im not going on SBR and talking about this, I will deal with this on my own.
I sold the site back in...Mayish? Which is odd cause they are saying there are transactions from June, right? Photoshopped, lovely

To delete the thread and allow me to handle this on my own.
And for him to be coming over here and causing drama on this forum, is ridiculous, and this will force me to never post here again.

Dude, the avatar, please change it

I answered, I went back and answered them, I over looked the questions, sorry

Someone isnt happy, but I will say this if this is the owner of HSP

I will NOT give a refund, after he two faced me everyday just to do this shit and get some free money back.

This fucker has to be someone who wanted to buy my site before and either is pissed or jealous or something cause both of the websites are at my monitor, as a matter of fact pappy is int he top 10 this week

http://www.handicapperswatchdog.com/cms/default_method/

Back in Mayish...

Fuck this asshole, I know for a FACT it isnt the buyer for a FACT it isnt him. He wouldnt do this no way no how.

Fuck this thread and fuck this scammy website, for all I know its one of you guys fucking with me.

Im done with this shit. Back to real life now.

I will say this if it is someone on here doing this, which is kinda hard to believe, just wow and pathetic

That is the way I sold it, had a buddy set it all up on there for me. That is the link with the purchase price and the date, May9th to be exact, took 3 days to sell to be exact

I understand but this has to be an exception, for identity purposes, you may of deleted the names but it still links all back to this scammy website with ym idenity

Another thing for you that has me on facebook, I m going to go ahead and delete you guys, only because of this non sense, and until it gets fixed, I will add you all back if you still want.

I need to really look after myself from here on out now..sorry

The sale went through and I havent gone back to flippa since, I am seeing he did post i scammed him, this is the first time I am seeing this...wow


Im looking into all this now.

So from what your saying he tried to re sell it? Sold it, kept the site and the money?

I never said I was selling it because it was gonna crash and burn, I said 4 months into the project I expected it to crash and burn and it didnt

I will be, im working on it now as we speak.

The only thing I can say about the transactions is that it had to come from a "potential" buyer when the site was for sale. I sent the proof of income to about 9 different people. And of those people I had 3 ready to buy and it came down to money and I went with someone completely towards the other direction, not online, but a person I know face to face.

Yeh one reason why I sold it, the name did suck. But it still made great income for what was made of it, surprisingly. I expected it to crash and burn after 4 months of work, kinda how I expect my site now to end, but surprisingly, still running.

Maybe some of those old clients came to my new site after the domain was changed? And this is why all this is going on? IDK like I said I am emailing the buyer now and calling him tomorrow.

Again this is all off of an old site I no longer run or own, I never had those "rules" for a month package, as you can see my new site only has 1 and 7 day pass'

Also why are all of these sites alike? Then this sportspicksandnews one is int he complete different direction? Looks like somebody created it with notepad and basic html code

I explained how possibly they got the screenshots
Im not going on SBR and talking about this, I will deal with this on my own.
I sold the site back in...Mayish? Which is odd cause they are saying there are transactions from June, right? Photoshopped, lovely

To delete the thread and allow me to handle this on my own.
And for him to be coming over here and causing drama on this forum, is ridiculous, and this will force me to never post here again.

Dude, the avatar, please change it

I answered, I went back and answered them, I over looked the questions, sorry

Someone isnt happy, but I will say this if this is the owner of HSP

I will NOT give a refund, after he two faced me everyday just to do this shit and get some free money back.

This fucker has to be someone who wanted to buy my site before and either is pissed or jealous or something cause both of the websites are at my monitor, as a matter of fact pappy is int he top 10 this week

http://www.handicapperswatchdog.com/cms/default_method/

Back in Mayish...

 

[MonkeyF0cker]

Fiveteamer = Professional pot stirrer. I thought everyone knew that by now.


Assassin, a moderator will be along soon. Hopefully they green light you. This is fun!

I really think fiver is friends with him...

 

[assassin]

I really think fiver is friends with him...

In my experience with Mr. Pappas Fiver might even BE him. I doubt it though.

 

[kato]

Fuck this asshole, I know for a FACT it isnt the buyer for a FACT it isnt him. He wouldnt do this no way no how.

Fuck this thread and fuck this scammy website, for all I know its one of you guys fucking with me.

Im done with this shit. Back to real life now.

I will say this if it is someone on here doing this, which is kinda hard to believe, just wow and pathetic

That is the way I sold it, had a buddy set it all up on there for me. That is the link with the purchase price and the date, May9th to be exact, took 3 days to sell to be exact

I understand but this has to be an exception, for identity purposes, you may of deleted the names but it still links all back to this scammy website with ym idenity

Another thing for you that has me on facebook, I m going to go ahead and delete you guys, only because of this non sense, and until it gets fixed, I will add you all back if you still want.

I need to really look after myself from here on out now..sorry

The sale went through and I havent gone back to flippa since, I am seeing he did post i scammed him, this is the first time I am seeing this...wow


Im looking into all this now.

So from what your saying he tried to re sell it? Sold it, kept the site and the money?

I never said I was selling it because it was gonna crash and burn, I said 4 months into the project I expected it to crash and burn and it didnt

I will be, im working on it now as we speak.

The only thing I can say about the transactions is that it had to come from a "potential" buyer when the site was for sale. I sent the proof of income to about 9 different people. And of those people I had 3 ready to buy and it came down to money and I went with someone completely towards the other direction, not online, but a person I know face to face.

Yeh one reason why I sold it, the name did suck. But it still made great income for what was made of it, surprisingly. I expected it to crash and burn after 4 months of work, kinda how I expect my site now to end, but surprisingly, still running.

Maybe some of those old clients came to my new site after the domain was changed? And this is why all this is going on? IDK like I said I am emailing the buyer now and calling him tomorrow.

Again this is all off of an old site I no longer run or own, I never had those "rules" for a month package, as you can see my new site only has 1 and 7 day pass'

Also why are all of these sites alike? Then this sportspicksandnews one is int he complete different direction? Looks like somebody created it with notepad and basic html code

I explained how possibly they got the screenshots
Im not going on SBR and talking about this, I will deal with this on my own.
I sold the site back in...Mayish? Which is odd cause they are saying there are transactions from June, right? Photoshopped, lovely

To delete the thread and allow me to handle this on my own.
And for him to be coming over here and causing drama on this forum, is ridiculous, and this will force me to never post here again.

Dude, the avatar, please change it

I answered, I went back and answered them, I over looked the questions, sorry

Someone isnt happy, but I will say this if this is the owner of HSP

I will NOT give a refund, after he two faced me everyday just to do this shit and get some free money back.

This fucker has to be someone who wanted to buy my site before and either is pissed or jealous or something cause both of the websites are at my monitor, as a matter of fact pappy is int he top 10 this week

http://www.handicapperswatchdog.com/cms/default_method/

Back in Mayish...

Fuck this asshole, I know for a FACT it isnt the buyer for a FACT it isnt him. He wouldnt do this no way no how.

Fuck this thread and fuck this scammy website, for all I know its one of you guys fucking with me.

Im done with this shit. Back to real life now.

I will say this if it is someone on here doing this, which is kinda hard to believe, just wow and pathetic

That is the way I sold it, had a buddy set it all up on there for me. That is the link with the purchase price and the date, May9th to be exact, took 3 days to sell to be exact

I understand but this has to be an exception, for identity purposes, you may of deleted the names but it still links all back to this scammy website with ym idenity

Another thing for you that has me on facebook, I m going to go ahead and delete you guys, only because of this non sense, and until it gets fixed, I will add you all back if you still want.

I need to really look after myself from here on out now..sorry

The sale went through and I havent gone back to flippa since, I am seeing he did post i scammed him, this is the first time I am seeing this...wow


Im looking into all this now.

So from what your saying he tried to re sell it? Sold it, kept the site and the money?

I never said I was selling it because it was gonna crash and burn, I said 4 months into the project I expected it to crash and burn and it didnt

Something tells me this is all you doing this. And once again, check the best bet thread and my monitor for the winning picks, ugh

What site?

Im sorry but im trying to think of all the logical answers here, sorry

Matty where does it says she is still listed as the owner for HSP ?

Cause hotsportsplays.com is closed down, the domain that is, and the hotsportsplays site is under hotsportscappers.com under a different name I see........

comeon if this was the case, why would I continue to post here and defend myself to a bunch of ppl I dont know? I want an honest answer please

Right, again, where does it say she is the owner of the site?

Please send me a link, because Im not getting any of this Matty, I just did a who is on 4 different whois sites and not getting any of this dude

George, if you haven't already, I suggest you run a search of your name on that website. He has posted emails that purportedly come from you and from others under the same IP address. He also has posted the original complaint which if true, confirms Matty's suspicion to a tee as to why someone would want to resell the website in the first place.

I will be, im working on it now as we speak.

The only thing I can say about the transactions is that it had to come from a "potential" buyer when the site was for sale. I sent the proof of income to about 9 different people. And of those people I had 3 ready to buy and it came down to money and I went with someone completely towards the other direction, not online, but a person I know face to face.

Yeh one reason why I sold it, the name did suck. But it still made great income for what was made of it, surprisingly. I expected it to crash and burn after 4 months of work, kinda how I expect my site now to end, but surprisingly, still running.

Maybe some of those old clients came to my new site after the domain was changed? And this is why all this is going on? IDK like I said I am emailing the buyer now and calling him tomorrow.

Again this is all off of an old site I no longer run or own, I never had those "rules" for a month package, as you can see my new site only has 1 and 7 day pass'

Also why are all of these sites alike? Then this sportspicksandnews one is int he complete different direction? Looks like somebody created it with notepad and basic html code

I explained how possibly they got the screenshots
Im not going on SBR and talking about this, I will deal with this on my own.
I sold the site back in...Mayish? Which is odd cause they are saying there are transactions from June, right? Photoshopped, lovely

To delete the thread and allow me to handle this on my own.
And for him to be coming over here and causing drama on this forum, is ridiculous, and this will force me to never post here again.

Dude, the avatar, please change it

I answered, I went back and answered them, I over looked the questions, sorry

Someone isnt happy, but I will say this if this is the owner of HSP

I will NOT give a refund, after he two faced me everyday just to do this shit and get some free money back.

This fucker has to be someone who wanted to buy my site before and either is pissed or jealous or something cause both of the websites are at my monitor, as a matter of fact pappy is int he top 10 this week

http://www.handicapperswatchdog.com/cms/default_method/

Back in Mayish...

Fuck this asshole, I know for a FACT it isnt the buyer for a FACT it isnt him. He wouldnt do this no way no how.

Fuck this thread and fuck this scammy website, for all I know its one of you guys fucking with me.

Im done with this shit. Back to real life now.

I will say this if it is someone on here doing this, which is kinda hard to believe, just wow and pathetic

That is the way I sold it, had a buddy set it all up on there for me. That is the link with the purchase price and the date, May9th to be exact, took 3 days to sell to be exact

I understand but this has to be an exception, for identity purposes, you may of deleted the names but it still links all back to this scammy website with ym idenity

I will be, im working on it now as we speak.

The only thing I can say about the transactions is that it had to come from a "potential" buyer when the site was for sale. I sent the proof of income to about 9 different people. And of those people I had 3 ready to buy and it came down to money and I went with someone completely towards the other direction, not online, but a person I know face to face.

Yeh one reason why I sold it, the name did suck. But it still made great income for what was made of it, surprisingly. I expected it to crash and burn after 4 months of work, kinda how I expect my site now to end, but surprisingly, still running.

Maybe some of those old clients came to my new site after the domain was changed? And this is why all this is going on? IDK like I said I am emailing the buyer now and calling him tomorrow.

Again this is all off of an old site I no longer run or own, I never had those "rules" for a month package, as you can see my new site only has 1 and 7 day pass'

Also why are all of these sites alike? Then this sportspicksandnews one is int he complete different direction? Looks like somebody created it with notepad and basic html code

I explained how possibly they got the screenshots
Im not going on SBR and talking about this, I will deal with this on my own.
I sold the site back in...Mayish? Which is odd cause they are saying there are transactions from June, right? Photoshopped, lovely

To delete the thread and allow me to handle this on my own.
And for him to be coming over here and causing drama on this forum, is ridiculous, and this will force me to never post here again.

Dude, the avatar, please change it

I answered, I went back and answered them, I over looked the questions, sorry

Someone isnt happy, but I will say this if this is the owner of HSP

I will NOT give a refund, after he two faced me everyday just to do this shit and get some free money back.

This fucker has to be someone who wanted to buy my site before and either is pissed or jealous or something cause both of the websites are at my monitor, as a matter of fact pappy is int he top 10 this week

http://www.handicapperswatchdog.com/cms/default_method/

Back in Mayish...

Fuck this asshole, I know for a FACT it isnt the buyer for a FACT it isnt him. He wouldnt do this no way no how.

Fuck this thread and fuck this scammy website, for all I know its one of you guys fucking with me.

Im done with this shit. Back to real life now.

I will say this if it is someone on here doing this, which is kinda hard to believe, just wow and pathetic

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[kato]

fuck your long winded

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Right, again, where does it say she is the owner of the site?

Please send me a link, because Im not getting any of this Matty, I just did a who is on 4 different whois sites and not getting any of this dude

I am seeing all this, laughing at the same time. Because this is funny and scary at the same time

Yes I see and know what whois....here is the thing

The domain was cancelled after the website was purchased and thats when hotsportscappers.com was created...

So correct me if this sounds odd, but from what Im gathering the guy cancelled the domain, kept our names on there, opened the new domain under whatever name...and is using the old domain as a tool to attack me? ? ?

If not, this is no proof of anything. As a matter of fact if I remember correctly this domain is scheduled to run out come the end of July, this month

Yes sorry I was using
http://www.whois.net/

at first

hahahaha that was a bad day shhhh

You think? Cause I dont know if I should go to the extreme or just sit back and laugh and slowly watch this all die out?

After-all if this was really real, why am I not in jail?

ok ok calm down now, please

Just when I thought mine was going away, this shit occurs

Back to this website? funny how it comes back to this website...interesting

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I dont see how this would matter, he has the IP from our emails and transaction from when i sold the site...and ovibouslly posted it all over his scammy site...So of course it could match up

What does that thread with the experiment have to do with this bullshit!?!?!??

Fuck this, going to bed. Ill get back at this when I wake up.
Gnight all

Real quick...Anything to make his story more realistic to attack me, thats how I see it. And how it is.
Gnight Shari

I will be, im working on it now as we speak.

The only thing I can say about the transactions is that it had to come from a "potential" buyer when the site was for sale. I sent the proof of income to about 9 different people. And of those people I had 3 ready to buy and it came down to money and I went with someone completely towards the other direction, not online, but a person I know face to face.

Yeh one reason why I sold it, the name did suck. But it still made great income for what was made of it, surprisingly. I expected it to crash and burn after 4 months of work, kinda how I expect my site now to end, but surprisingly, still running.

Im gathering Assassin is the enabler with all this. Altamind is the guy who bought the website

And he know has a legitimate website that had montlhy income when I ran it. Nothing wrong with making a sale and selling a product of your own.

Fiver and I do not know each other lol
I like your handle, ironic its ASSISSIN and with all this BS. hm

<-- this is you

You keep with the lies, and I will keep on with my life. Ignoring is the key to guys like you.

There will be no documenation of any sort on here regarding my name. Anyone can make false documents..for example Look at fiver with the 8 stiffing jobs towards CW

My stiffing came with them holding out money on me for winning weeks at a time though. So I did it back and just never paid them like they eventually did for me.
But good point, everyone stiffs them

 

[PapaGeorge]

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