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During Lazy Sunday, caught about 3/4 of two cable movies.

Shanghai Noon - An action-comedy starring Jackie Chan and Owen Wilson. What could go wrong? Everything. And I loved it.

Reservation Road - First viewing since it was released. The hopelessness of it all captured perfectly. 8.5 Mattyrains.
 
I no understand.

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Checked out a few movies this week. I even got off my butt and went out to the theatre for the first time in a long time.



Inception - Already discusssed in another thread. Worth seeing but didn't live up to the hype. That was probably impossible anyway. I wanted fantastic dreamscapes and flights of imagination but I got guys running/driving around shooting guns at each other. But worth seeing. 6.5 out of 10.



In The Loop - Sharp political/military satire which is a thinly-veiled, absurdist look at the lead-up to the war in Iraq. 7 out of 10.




Six Degrees of Separation (1993) - I loved the beginning and end of it. It had the potential to be an 8/10 however a series of baffling mis-steps in the middle drop it to a 6. It gives lots to think about though.
 
Muddy maybe you are the one to ask here.

I watched an old movie that I know I had seen bits and pieces of in the past but couldn't remember ever seeing the whole thing, Rollerball with James Kahn.

I get the anti-corporate part but was that the entire meaning of the movie? I thought I remembered it being better, at least the bits and pieces I had seen but it really wasn't. Basically a bad movie all around.

If you have seen it and remember it well did I miss more to the story than the corporate thing?
 
wal66
Muddy maybe you are the one to ask here.

I watched an old movie that I know I had seen bits and pieces of in the past but couldn't remember ever seeing the whole thing, Rollerball with James Kahn.

I get the anti-corporate part but was that the entire meaning of the movie? I thought I remembered it being better, at least the bits and pieces I had seen but it really wasn't. Basically a bad movie all around.

If you have seen it and remember it well did I miss more to the story than the corporate thing?
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I have seen it. It is not totally fresh in my mind but the anti-corporation theme was definitely a big thing. Not just in Rollerball but several movies of that era. (The Osterman Weekend comes to mind). It seems a tad bit goofy today but I guess it was the flavor-of-the-decade for pseudo-intellectuals at that time. And it does still pop up from time to time.

Of course the more general way to look at it is any little guy fighting any corrupt system/power. That is more universal and timeless. And that can work.

I don't know what to say about Rollerball. Looking back, it does seem pretty absurd. The way they kept changing the rules of the actual game was beyond credibility. The movie became more a series of devices than an actual story. Reminded me of The Quick and the Dead.

I see I rated it a 5 out of 10 at imdb. This is where I wish they allowed fractions of points in the ratings because that is the dividing line of thumbs up/thumbs down and I'm not sure which way I was leaning.
 
Mudcat
I have seen it. It is not totally fresh in my mind but the anti-corporation theme was definitely a big thing. Not just in Rollerball but several movies of that era. (The Osterman Weekend comes to mind). It seems a tad bit goofy today but I guess it was the flavor-of-the-decade for pseudo-intellectuals at that time. And it does still pop up from time to time.

Of course the more general way to look at it is any little guy fighting any corrupt system/power. That is more universal and timeless. And that can work.

I don't know what to say about Rollerball. Looking back, it does seem pretty absurd. The way they kept changing the rules of the actual game was beyond credibility. The movie became more a series of devices than an actual story. Reminded me of The Quick and the Dead.

I see I rated it a 5 out of 10 at imdb. This is where I wish they allowed fractions of points in the ratings because that is the dividing line of thumbs up/thumbs down and I'm not sure which way I was leaning.
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Muddy that's it. That's the other meaning of the movie right there. I knew there had to be more to it. The rules are always changing to suit the requirements of those who have the power. Ring any bells?

Mudster, you're a genius and you're so comfortable being a genius you didn't even emphasize that you found the additional meaning of the movie.
 
Cheerleader Beach Party - 1978
Premise: A group of football players are recruited in their senior year to play for "State U" instead of the more local college where the cheerleaders plan on attending. While on a trip to the State U facilities the cheerleaders hijack a bus and drive to foil the dastardly plan. There are the obligatory shower scenes and make out sessions but not nearly enough to get you through the horrid acting and bad plot. I am a fan of these bad cult films, and this one was not just bad, but God awful. And not in a good way. The pool scene with the foodfight saved it from a .5 out of 10 rating.

1 out of 10
 
wal66
Muddy that's it. That's the other meaning of the movie right there. I knew there had to be more to it. The rules are always changing to suit the requirements of those who have the power. Ring any bells?

Mudster, you're a genius and you're so comfortable being a genius you didn't even emphasize that you found the additional meaning of the movie.
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I am recalling a scene where they were (for lack of a better term) fire-bombing live trees as a corporate after-party activity. That was an interesting little detail they threw in there. It is a bit of imagery that, if anything, is even more relevant and provocative today.

By gawd here it is:


 
Mudcat
I am recalling a scene where they were (for lack of a better term) fire-bombing live trees as a corporate after-party activity. That was an interesting little detail they threw in there. It is a bit of imagery that, if anything, is even more relevant and provocative today.

By gawd here it is:


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Complete lack of regard for anything but their own self-indulgence?
I didn’t fully grasp why the women took so much pleasure in it though.
Maybe it was part of the whole women’s lib movement and the powerful gun gave them a sense of total empowerment?
 
I see there is a Tron sequel coming out. I never actually saw the original. I don't know why - I never heard anything really bad about it. As I understand it, it is something of a seminal special effects movie.

What do you think? Should I see Tron?
 
This weekend I was thinking about a movie I wanted to re watch, Welcome to the Dollhouse. I think you and Robyn would like it.


I watched it with my mom at the local "art movie" house. She was visiting me in Detroit. Several times throughout this movie, she poked me while chuckling and stage whispered, "just like you "Mrs. X"". When we got out of the movie I punched her in the mouth and then we went to dinner.
 
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