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IAG

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Some of you know about Lori, who is the gal who comes in 2-3x a week for 2-3 hours at a shot to watch mom while I get out...I may have mentioned this problem before but now it's on a new level.


Somehow we decided on the amount of $15 per hour cash. At the beginning I just thought she would be watching mom (easy) while I was out. Easy $15 for that job, and only offered that much due to the low number of hours weekly (I was actually authorized to go up to $20/hr) However, she is a type who can't sit still. She does EVERYTHING while I'm gone. She cleans house top to bottom, pulls weeds, does laundry. After the basement flooded she moved all the furniture back by herself without being asked to..(She can be no more than 115 lbs I'm thinking..and she's 55) She organizes the silverware, cleans the oven..the garage... I don't even tell her what to do..she just does stuff. I have no idea where she gets her energy, although I don't think she's on anything but coffee all day and beer all night. This is her choice though, to keep busy while I'm gone...she can do as much or little as she wants as far as I'm concerned.


Here is the issue. I now pay her once per month. I calculate the number of hours, multiply by 15 and write her a check. Easy. At the beginning I would give her cash daily or once a week, and half the time she would give $10 or more back to me and throw it back in the door before leaving if I refused. This kind of push/pull arguing about money drove me fucking crazy. It was like me begging her to take her pay and was really annoying. Sometimes if I wrote a check she would tear it up if it was for the actual amount she should be paid claiming I had calculated it incorrectly. Very strange and used to really piss me off.

We went to monthly pay. Should be very straightforward. I count the number of days and multiply by $30..I gave up on paying her more than that daily as it was futile, but I did insist she take the min $30 per day. This seemed to go be going well the last couple months. HOWEVER, I just was balancing my check book and noticed that the same day she cashed my $300 check I had a deposit to my bank account for $60 (we bank same place) I was like wtf was that? THEN I FIGURE OUT SHE HAS BEEN DEPOSTING MONEY BACK IN MY ACCOUNT FOR THE LAST 2-3 MONTHS.

To top it off she just brought me a birthday present which included a $50 bill in the card. Talk about awkward. I don't mind her getting underpaid for the work she does when she was just hired to watch and her decision to do more....all I want is her to take what we agreed upon and not have to play games. She doesn't even own a car! She lives with her sister and does not have the money to be giving it away. In case that she looks at me as a friend now and that is playing in , I have assured her that even though the check comes from me, I am reimbursed for that expense.

I have tried to compensate by buying her thank you gifts for Christmas bonuses that are essentially cash..for example I gave her an Amazon gift card ..and another for a restaurant. She won't take them. She leaves them here. Says she doesn't want them etc. Yet she brought over food for a small Army at Christmas and all sorts of little gifts for me and mom.

I know most will say let it go, but makes me not even want to keep her on, as it really bothers me..especially given the amount of workshe does, and the fact I know she needs money. She works under the table mostly, so I am sure she doesn't have much in terms of social security. She doesn't have health insurance!

I know there is probably not much I can do, but if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. I literally would not be able to do this if not for her. She can be annoying, but has saved my ass more than once and it doesn't feel right to me. I feel like I should find a way to make up for this, but I resent her for that. I don't have time for this shit.
 
Stop fighting with her. I know you are not fighting, but you know what I mean. My wife's sisters are like that. We are good to them. They often refuse money or small things and it turns into a here take it, no take it, you are taking the money type of thing. They always refuse. My wife does this. I tell my wife to stop hounding them. If they say they don;t want it then they don't want it.

My advice is just use words. Tell her that you appreciate her and all her help. Sometime that's all what people need. Maybe she just likes doing what she is doing. Maybe it makes her feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Just tell her how much you appreciate her and if she needs a hand sometime then let her know that she can hit you up and that if you are in a position to assist her that you will.
 
I would go to my bank and tell them to stop letting other people deposit into your account, I didn't even know people were allowed to do that.
It'd be nice if there was some way you could put her on a payroll.
Either deal with it, or find someone new.
 
You can deposit the money that she deposits back to your account into my account and we can spend it on my boys who could end up being your step-sons if we stick to our plan for you to come to Canada and get the free health insurance and better beer.
 
Stop fighting with her. I know you are not fighting, but you know what I mean. My wife's sisters are like that. We are good to them. They often refuse money or small things and it turns into a here take it, no take it, you are taking the money type of thing. They always refuse. My wife does this. I tell my wife to stop hounding them. If they say they don;t want it then they don't want it.

My advice is just use words. Tell her that you appreciate her and all her help. Sometime that's all what people need. Maybe she just likes doing what she is doing. Maybe it makes her feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Just tell her how much you appreciate her and if she needs a hand sometime then let her know that she can hit you up and that if you are in a position to assist her that you will.
I guess all I can do. I'm just frustrated because I thought we finally had a system. And because of my shoulder issues, I will more than likely need her more in the future. It would be one thing if she was ok financially. She is kind of a scammer type so I don't understand this at all.

I would go to my bank and tell them to stop letting other people deposit into your account, I didn't even know people were allowed to do that.
It'd be nice if there was some way you could put her on a payroll.
Either deal with it, or find someone new.
I didn't either. The problem is I could NEVER find someone who would do that kind of work for less than $50/hour probably. Maybe here I could...not in Denver for sure. She's already working way lower than market value. All I want is for her to take her due pay. But you are right. I just hate that damn game like Pucky was talking about. It seems so fucking juvenile to me. Don't bitch to me about money and then not take your paycheck. Argh. I guess I know there is nothing I can do. I guess I just needed to vent.

TY for listening.
 
I agree with Archie. This is obviously an attempt at some lesbian courting. The goal here is that she has things her way and will be the alpha male female of the relationship and you will be the submissive one. Mess with that dynamic and have your bank account screwed with. I think you should give in and enjoy the ride.
 
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I didn't either. The problem is I could NEVER find someone who would do that kind of work for less than $50/hour probably. Maybe here I could...not in Denver for sure. She's already working way lower than market value. All I want is for her to take her due pay. But you are right. I just hate that damn game like Pucky was talking about. It seems so fucking juvenile to me. Don't bitch to me about money and then not take your paycheck. Argh. I guess I know there is nothing I can do. I guess I just needed to vent.

TY for listening.

Her finances are not your responsibility or concern. I understand your feelings there, but that is her problem, not yours. You pay her, if she chooses not take it, or give some back, that's on her.
 
I agree with Archie. This is obviously an attempt at some lesbian courting. The goal here is that she has things her way and will be the alpha male female of the relationship and you will be the submissive one. Mess with that dynamic and have your bank account screwed with. I think you should give in and enjoy the ride.

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I don't think she's a lesbo. IAG mentioned that she is kind of a scammer type. I'd keep an eye on her in case she is working some sort of scam. Not sure what it could be, but it could be anything. Again, maybe she is just willing to help out. Who knows. Does she have a key to the house? Do you leave financial documents out in plain view like Visa statements with your number etc.

Ever think about setting up a nanny cam?