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Do you ever think that maybe time is circular?

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Well, I guess I'd rather have cyclical time than a sudden reversal of time, as if God was rewinding Creation on VHS. Would suck to give back all that money from winning bets or to pay back our employers for the work we're about to undo.

(I'm aware that it's beginning to look like I've been up all night abusing all sorts of recreational drugs, but such is not the case. Sore throat from the cold weather outside. Anyway, fuck off y'all, you're not the boss of me. :peace:)
 
Matt Rain
Let me rephrase my first post in this thread (I'm sort of sad that no one even acknowledged my dorky NES analogy, but I won't mention it anymore so as not to appear needy)

In a universe where time is cyclical, does every event always reoccur exactly the same or is there some kind of inherent cosmic instability that produces something akin to the butterfly effect? If it's the latter, it really wouldn't take much to change the course of history in a very drastic manner... in a future "playback" of the universe, maybe a speck of radioactive dust fucks up the early human DNA and we miss out on opposable thumbs, becoming extinct when a rogue tribe of savant dinosaurs start poaching us for our meat (legislation was passed to protect our kind but improper enforcement did us in.)
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It is a good question. I find it necessary in the framework of my original query to look at it as time repeating EXACTLY. Free will is an illusion. Everyone makes the same choices over and over.

Because you're right. Only a slight variation can cause ripples and then more ripples which over vast lengths of time will change things drastically. Iit becomes extremely unlikely we will exist at all on subsequent run-throughs.

So if free will is an illusion, what is the point of saying, "I better work towards having a good life." It is already ordained. But I say even the illusion of free will still amounts to the same thing. Whatever you think you are deciding freely now is what you decided in the first run-through where you did have free will.

So I say make the right decisions even if you have already made them!
 
reno cool
Last I heard there was no consensus on whether the universe is finite.
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Well sir, when I studied Astrophysics at U of Toronto, my professors certainly spoke like it was a consensus. Now that was some years back and some things have changed. There is now this "String Theory" being talked about which came along after the time of my studies. That is a pretty big deal meant to explain the fundamental nature of everything.

I am out of the loop but I think if the precept of a finite expanding universe had been superceded, I would have heard something about it.

I was looking at the night sky last night and I didn't see anything unusual. I even stood on my toes to get a better look. Everything seemed to be in order.
 
To the best of my understanding, it is nearly universally accepted in the scientific community that our universe is finite and is expanding at an accelerating rate (and, therefore, will never contract).

In recent years, though, there has been growing support for multiple universes (a multiverse). Although there wouldn't be an infinite number of universes, there would be one for every single quantum event since the beginning of time. That's a big enough number for me to be unable to wrap my head around.
 
MrX
To the best of my understanding, it is nearly universally accepted in the scientific community that our universe is finite and is expanding at an accelerating rate (and, therefore, will never contract).

In recent years, though, there has been growing support for multiple universes (a multiverse). Although there wouldn't be an infinite number of universes, there would be one for every single quantum event since the beginning of time. That's a big enough number for me to be unable to wrap my head around.
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A multiverse would raise more questions than it answered. Given that the laws of physics in our universe would not apply in others, the nature of time (such as it is) would also be different.
What would happen if our universe came to collide with another one?
It's all so confusing, give us a winner Mr. X.
 
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