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Really? I feel like he's gotten the most out of some pretty bad teams post-Ben. And he's not GM, so not his fault the teams are trash. This year there have been some bad losses, but what was wrong with him before now?

THE STEELERS WON ON TALENT, NOT COACHING. I AGREE HE’S NEVER HAD A LOSING RECORD AND THAT’S DEFINITELY IMPRESSIVE. HE HAS SEVERAL GOOD COACHES BEHIND HIM. WE MISS BEN !!
 
The Steelers have such a great core of backs, receivers and tight ends. Defense is suspect, yet awesome when healthy ..

Need a QB. Trubisky sucks, Pickett is a joke and Rudolph is flying Santa’s Sleigh 🛷 in several days .. Pun intended ..
 
The Steelers have such a great core of backs, receivers and tight ends. Defense is suspect, yet awesome when healthy ..

Need a QB. Trubisky sucks, Pickett is a joke and Rudolph is flying Santa’s Sleigh 🛷 in several days .. Pun intended ..
That's my point though. They've had trash QBs. Hard to win in the NFL and especially in that division without one!
 
Agreeing with Davy Tomlin IMO one the better coaches in the league from the start and proven track record of a winner. Love his take no bullshit from the players attitude though we all know difficult to use that approach with the players today.

Regardless of Big Ben, can't think off the top of my head what coach has had continued success year-after-year without a better than average QB? That genius up in New England looking less like one now.

Here's a look at one site's to win AFC odds before start of season ..... last in the AFC North.
  • Kansas City Chiefs, +325
  • Buffalo Bills, +450
  • Cincinnati Bengals, +500
  • New York Jets, +900
  • Baltimore Ravens, +950
  • Miami Dolphins, +1200
  • Jacksonville Jaguars, +1300
  • Los Angeles Chargers, +1400
  • Cleveland Browns, +1600
  • Pittsburgh Steelers, +2500
  • Denver Broncos, +2800
  • New England Patriots, +3000
  • Las Vegas Raiders, +4500
  • Tennessee Titans, +4500
  • Indianapolis Colts, +6000
  • Houston Texans, +9000
Presently probably will end up last in division as expected, but sure looked different a few weeks ago. Forget having no QB, the team is lacking in other areas too.

Canada might look at being a scapegoat, but a stat that totally surprised me was every single game as OC this season, the other team's yardage was greater than Pittsburgh. That's hard to fathom. Also read the Canada had no previous NFL experience before taking the Steeler job. Reading below lucky he didn't get canned after last season.

These stats don't lie since Canada took over as OC in 2021 ....

Since Canada took over as coordinator, the Steelers are .539 and have won 20 of 38 games. That’s the 14th-best win rate.

But his offense ranks #28 in points scored, #26 in EPA, and #26 in yardage gained.

Canada doesn’t understand how to win games in the NFL.

He doesn’t understand strategy. He doesn’t realize how vital it is to jump out and seize leads, and how often aggressive offense early in games ultimately leads to victories.

Since 2021, the Steelers first quarter offense ranks #31 in yardage and #31 in points scored.

The story remains unchanged in 2023.

In first-half offense this year, the Steelers rank #29 in EPA, #28 in yards, and #25 in points scored.

Out of 26 first-half drives on the season, only ONCE did they even drive to the red zone.

That 3.8% rate (1-of-26) ranks dead last in the NFL.

Their first-half drives average the fewest plays per drive (4.3).

And that is because they average the highest rate of 3-and-outs.

An insane 15-of-26 drives (58%) have gone 3-and-out, the worst in the NFL. The NFL average is only 34%.

61.1% of the Steelers’ set of downs have reached third down, the highest rate in the league.

The league average is 47.5%.

55.4% of the Pittsburgh set of downs create a new set of downs, the lowest rate in the league.

The league average is 70.3%.


With these offensive woes they still went 9-7-1 and 9-8 last two years. Don't know if anyone realizes but both Tomlin and Sean McDermott were star teammates at William & Mary with Tomlin two years ahead of Sean. That school isn't one you get admitted to by being only good at football. Very hard to get into just below Ivy status. Both these guys are smart defensive minded dudes!
 
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people needed that assurance that Hurts is starting I guess.
Honesty didn't think he was starting and local media talking like no cold or flu ..... COVID? Wouldn't mind Marcus M starting except the guy was HORRIBLE to say the least in preseason with 3rd stringer outperforming him easily.

Bigger issue is horrific play of defense with shocking move of Matt P taking over for DC Sean Desai calling plays. Sirianni is desperate but watching defense closely some surprisingly strategy by Deasi that isn't working.

Eagles never valued LBs (second stringers for most teams) and getting hurt badly by it and secondary doesn't seem to have their act together. Defense, entire team in reality needs to step up tonight. Other teams are just running and passing all over them.