question about football prop

[Mudcat]

On the prop, Offense scores all TD's (Y/N), if there is a kick return touchdown, I assume the prop is scored as a no.


Correct?

 

[wal66]

Kick return, punt return of defensive score would all qualify as a no is how I would interpret it Muddy.

 

[Polaroid]

Offense scores all TD's (Y/N)

The prop is surely (and I mean in the way that props are not really meant to be complicated things) that any score by Team X counts as a score for Team X; the wording seems to mean that Team X will score all their points by TDs or not. I'm sure that a book could worm their way out of paying since it's not so perfectly worded but it's pretty clear.

 

[Polaroid]

Kick return, punt return of defensive score would all qualify as a no is how I would interpret it Muddy.

When a team is kicking/punting to you, then you get the ball. That means you have the ball. That means you're the offensive team rather than the defensive team.

But still, a badly worded prop.

 

[Bread]

YOU'RE a badly worded prop.

 

[Mudcat]

Oh, I see what you're getting at. You're taking it to mean, Offenses will score nothing but TD's, i.e. - no field goals.

I was taking it to mean all TD's scored will be scored by offenses - i.e. no ints for TD's in the game.

With the wording I used, either is possible - but it's possible that the wording I made up off the top of my head is not exact. Unfortunately there is no example at 5dimes to double-check the exact wording right at this second. Maybe they will have it for some NFL games as it gets closer to kickoff.



I was really under the impression the prop was about all the TD's in the game being scored by offenses. But then there's still the point about if a kick return team is considered the offense when they get the ball - which was the uncertainty leading to my original question.

Ugh.

 

[Archie]

I would just stay away from that prop.... a case could be made for either of the above explanations....

though I don't think special teams count as either offensive or defensive teams during a punt or kick off.... the Refs even just call them the" kicking team" or "receiving team" when assigning penalties because saying offense or defensive holding would not clear up who the penalty was on for instance...

and if a LB picks up a fumble and rumbles 89 yards for a TD.... it was a defensive touchdown...

if the prop is that all scores were TD's.... then you would lose the no on that prop as soon as the kicker made the extra point....

and even if they didn't count the extra points... how many teams go an entire game without making a fg? I'd say maybe 15-35% of times that happens....

so is the yes +300/400/500ish on that prop Muddy?

 

[Polaroid]

YOU'RE a badly worded prop.

YOU'RE not popular; don't take it out on me.

 

[Archie]

also don't forget about the rare 2 point safeties in factoring your %'s here Muddy

 

[Bread]

YOU'RE not popular; don't take it out on me.

You know how to cut right to the core.

 

[Mudcat]

so is the yes +300/400/500ish on that prop Muddy?

The yes has tended to be in the -170 range. This is for college. (And the yes has been doing extremely well so far this year, although just how well depends on the interpretation.)

 

[Polaroid]

Oh, I see what you're getting at. You're taking it to mean, Offenses will score nothing but TD's, i.e. - no field goals.

It's a prop. Sportsbooks generally don't think that much about the props they offer and I'm sure that they're not trying to deceive you over a (probably) low limit prop.

I was really under the impression the prop was about all the TD's in the game being scored by offenses. But then there's still the point about if a kick return team is considered the offense when they get the ball - which was the uncertainty leading to my original question.

Badly worded yes but since you've mentioned 5dimes, rather than a not so good sportsbook, then I'd think (or hope) that they would grade the prop the "right" way.

 

[Polaroid]

I would just stay away from that prop.... a case could be made for either of the above explanations....

Probably the best answer so far. Get something in writing before you bet it.

 

[Mudcat]

It's a crappy prop and quite frankly this is a crappy thread. Who started this shit?

 

[Bread]

YOU'RE a crappy thread!

 

[MonkeyF0cker]

On the prop, Offense scores all TD's (Y/N), if there is a kick return touchdown, I assume the prop is scored as a no.


Correct?

I would assume that it means no defensive or special teams TD's. Perhaps, you could ask the book for clarification.

 

[Archie]

I would assume that it means no defensive or special teams TD's. Perhaps, you could ask the book for clarification.

This...


like I said I think a yes for a team not making any FG's (nevermind the extra point semantics) would have to be in the +200-300 range....

since the yes is -170 it must refer to special teams/int+fumble returns/safties...

no go clarify it so we know

 

[MonkeyF0cker]

The prop is surely (and I mean in the way that props are not really meant to be complicated things) that any score by Team X counts as a score for Team X; the wording seems to mean that Team X will score all their points by TDs or not. I'm sure that a book could worm their way out of paying since it's not so perfectly worded but it's pretty clear.

They couldn't possibly assume that though with extra points not truly being TD's.