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Americans....guns v. gambling?

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wellcortez

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Ok, I have a question for all our American friends.

How is it that your esteemed leaders find it morally acceptable for you to bear arms and carry guns yet do not trust you with your own money?

You can go buy handguns, rifles, etc but you can't play poker online or bet on sports!? How ridiculous!

Why is this?
 
guns are big business. and the Gun business like Oil, has always had politicians in their back pocket.

i'm glad for guns. without them Deer would run this country. good question though. you are right about the gambling aspect.

slowly but surely, enough people are getting the right $ to the right politicians and gambling is becoming more prevalent.

its not they don't trust us with our money online. its just that they don't want us spending $ that goes to costa rica without them getting a cut.

also, Americans wouldn't be their own country. If we weren't allowed to bear arms. Its hard to
 
things are only legal/illegal depending on if big brother gets their cut of $$ from it

so you can go to your local brick and mortar casino, horse track, otb, convenience store for scratchers, etc etc because big brother gets their cut of the pie. you can make a fool of yourself in public doing so, causing a disturbance by yelling rooting in your bets, etc. they don't care, they are getting $$$

however you can't sit in the confines of your own home and bother no one and do the same thing, using a computer to place your bets, because they don't get a piece of the pie

it all comes down to whether they get their cut of the money whether something is legal or illegal
 
I realize there are many that disagree with taxation but by doing this many things could be accomplished. Your brick and motor casinos could open their own online casinos and the states could tax at that level. The already established online gambling sites outside the U.S. could be taxed at a higher rate and that would bring in federal tax dollars.

By making it legal and taxing it the entire thing could be regulated and policed to ensure convenience and security to all those participating. By making it legal and taxing it would also allow for disputes to be settled in a court of law if necessary as well.

Obviously the argument about policing and regulating doesn’t mean there wouldn’t still be the potential for corruption as we’ve seen via ENRON, AIG and many others but it still leaves options open.
 
freefall.

I have a moral definition for you......

you pay me 18% of your business. I don't care what it is......if you make enough $ we will make it moral
...... Oh you are molesting little boys? give me 24% then

we'll make it MORAL with fox news and whatever else....
 
How so RayRay.

Obviously some economic depletion from the amount of gamblers going to Vegas and Atlantic City would be felt but at the same time even more people would be able to use their casino from the comfort of their home. The real casino types who want to play live will still be going though.

If it is structured correctly and the taxes are applied differently for domestic casinos than for those outside the U.S. more players would gravitate to the local brand and they would flourish.

This is a very condensed version of the full plan but I think it would work.
 
wally, if you cant see how bad it would hurt the economy because people blow all their money gambling, then i really cant discuss this with you... people use disposable income on shopping...if they could gamble, it would be used to gamble more and shop less... it might not have a quick effect, but over time, would hurt the economy significantly imo...
 
Ok, I thought you were talking personal economic impact to your "business" or like I mentioned the economic setback from the dropoff in visits to brick and mortor areas.

When you look at it from that standpoint I can see an argument against.
 
I bitch all the time about how hard it is to fund on line books. But I dont think just making gambling legal is the answer. Any idiot can find a local bookie if they really want too. And for the most points I have never really had an issue getting paid from on line books, it might have taken some time, but I have always been paid.

I watch tons of cash poor fucks buy lottery tickets in the grocery store all the time. "The other day I watched some one in front of me cash their government check, and then spend $50 on the lottery.
 
Ray, do you think your theory about how legal gambling would damage legal businesses only applies specifically to Americans or to every first world country? If it's solely for America, then ok. I haven't lived there in a few years so maybe things have changed quite a bit.

But that's simply not the case here. Australia has 23% of the world's slot machines and the latest figures released said each Australian on average turns over $8k per year gambling, whether they win or not. This amount is a combination of sports/race betting and slot machines. This is a massive gambling country but it is also a very financially sound one - in fact one of the only to escape the GFC relatively unscathed.

People still shop whether they gamble or not. Some may even shop more if they win a decent amount. The thing is though that not everyone here gambles even though their winnings wouldn't be taxed and most people are able to place bets within 10 minutes of their house, if not less. Other than online of course. I have quite a few friends who place a $5-$50 bet once per year on the Melbourne Cup and that's it. They are more than financially able to bet, and lose, every day if they wanted to, but they just don't. Even though it's splashed in our faces constantly to the point that Aussie sporting events constantly post live odds during the game.

The people it does hurt are locals as there really isn't any need for them. Most people aren't willing to take the chance to do something illegal when the lines locals offer just simply aren't worth it. Plus they can't compete with bonuses, free plays, etc...

But as far as legal gambling harming our shopping efforts, that's just incorrect. The only thing harming local businesses right now is the strength of the Aussie dollar compared to the US as more and more people are buying stuff online from US shops and having it shipped here as it's much cheaper to do so.
 
Gambling is already legal in the USA. I don't think legalizing sports betting will change anything, other than more taxes for the government. People who are addicted to gambling and lose all their money do so at the casinos currently.

I don't think it will effect our economy in terms of shopping.