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In general in todays day and age of leaks and shit, find it virtually impossible to imagine a full-blown 🦊 the way people orchestrate them on social media. The more complex the "plan", the more unlikely it is to exist without being blown up. So again all I'm imagining is a hand shake agreement...

To make it more believable? The Paul's certainly arent above making themselves look like idiots. Obviously we'll have to agree to disagree here. My only surprise as I mentioned before is how positive you are that there was zero funny business here. I'm nowhere close to as confident that there...

Yeah like Roguey just said, it's specifically the Jake Paul element here. 1000% agree in general that all the fixed/rigged/conspiracy stuff is blown way out of proportion across all sports. I understand your frustration and am sorry to have contributed to it. Much love Matty ❤️

Roguey I'm scared of boxing fan Matty hes very feisty 😱

Damnit Bone Bone you are a major contender for POTY you gotta lock in and get serious here no more hijinks!!

The crux of this whole disagreement is how confident you are in this statement. I'm an Occams Razor guy, so in a spot with two random fighters, I'm with you and laughing off "RIGGED!" banter. But with an influencer turned prize fighter notorious for a public career of shenanigans, I can’t see...

Yeah bit of semantics arguing here, I think. I agree that Bone Bones original example there was a plan/strategy if it was just one fighter deciding how to pace themselves. No different from certain horses being front runners or closers by design, etc. I'm doing a bit for the sake of the "🦊"...

I bet on it specifically because I thought it was rigged haha

@Matty @Archie Fair enough, I'll defer to you guys. I know more about foxing than boxing 🦊

Against a real heavyweight, yes. You patiently wait for your opportunity to strike, because if you chase after a dude running like this, you leave yourself open to being countered. Against Jake Paul? You could close the distance and throw some punches if you wanted to.

You don't?!? You think Joshua really needed to dance for the first three rounds against this dude?

PICTURE PERFECT 🦊!!!

Alright I'm in on the 🦊: 1/2 unit on Joshua KO + O2.5 (+180) 1/2 unit on Joshua KO + O3.5 (+316) GL all

Yes Matty but that was NOT 🦊'd, this WILL BE 🦊'd. Unless Joshua destroys him early, then it was not 🦊'd.

I would NOT be betting on this like a real fight but good luck to those who did! My 🦊 guess is that Joshua would not agree to lose, but would agree to go a little easy on him. Looks "legit", Paul "looks respectable" in loss lasting longer than expected, Joshua doesn't have to take embarrassing L.

Spoiler: it won't be.

Just some dude who should not have shaved his beard

Damn you hate to see it

Yes and no. Someone highly motivated to commit a crime will indeed find a way. But obstacles in place would create more opportunities for someone to be caught or to just take an easier (and likely less deadly) path. Not all criminals are criminal masterminds.

This has always been such an odd argument against gun control laws to me. Of course nothing is going to be 100% effective. I don't see how that means that if it won't work 100% of the time, we shouldn't bother to do anything. Not in favor of an outright ban on guns, but putting more barriers in...