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    Default Barry Zito: Back To The Oakland Days

    With Barry Zito set to get the start on Sunday against the Los Angeles Dodgers, we might just be seeing the Zito of old. After winning his first two starts of the 2010 season, Zito stands at 2-0 for only the second time in his career. The two wins, alongside an ERA of 2.25 ERA look pretty but there is more than that as evidence that Zito might have finally turned the corner as he enters into the fourth year of the seven year contract he signed with the San Francisco Giants in December 2006.

    A 31-46 record alongside a 4.56 ERA and an average of under 190 innings a year doesn't look too horrendous but when you're a former Cy Young winner and being paid $18 million per year then it is nowhere near an optimal rate of return for a smaller market team like the Giants. But look under the surface and it's not all bad. Last year he posted a FIP of 4.31 which is an improvement on both 2007 (4.82) and 2008 (4.72). The turnaround of Zito's fortunes isn't simply the two starts this year but ever since last year's All Star break – since then (including this year) he has had 17 starts with a 7-4 record and a 2.76 ERA over 98 innings. The W/L might not seem a good return, but remember this is the San Francisco offence – in that period there have been ten starts where Zito didn't get the win and in seven of those the Giants scored two runs or fewer.

    Whether this is down to the fact that Zito has regained some speed on his pitches (in 2009/10 his fastballs, sliders, curveballs and changeups are all at least 2mph faster than in 2007), he is maturing as a pitcher or he is no longer bogged down by the pressure of his contract now he is with a staff full of star pitchers we will never know. He is certainly no Tim Lincecum and in all likelihood he may not have a season where he justifies his salary but Barry Zito isn't as bad as you think Barry Zito is. And maybe he can be an oracle to the youngsters in San Francisco like he was in Oakland.


    Last edited by Polaroid; 04-22-2010 at 05:28 AM.

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    Yeah. He's been slowly returning to form. He used to be an almost guaranteed fade.

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    Zito is +149 at Pinnacle tomorrow, Clayton Kershaw is -159 for the Dodgers. The Giants are tied second with the Dodgers for most runs scored (6.18 RPG) and allowed the second least (3.55 RPG) in the NL. While that run won't continue, getting a premier pitcher at plus money looks nice.

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    I need more convincing before I get on any kind of Barry Zito bandwagon.
    Birds do it, bees do it
    Even educated fleas do it
    Let's do it, let's fall in love

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    The bugger is looking good today with a 4-hit shut-out in the bottom of the 8th.
    Birds do it, bees do it
    Even educated fleas do it
    Let's do it, let's fall in love

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    His one walk of the day comes back to bite him in the ass. Looking like another excellent performance with no win as the Giants fail to put up more than a single run.

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    good piece. youre alright polaroidy.
    "There were plants
    And birds
    And rocks
    And things"

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    I jinxed him. He immediately put a guy on base and "relief" came in and gave up a home run (to Manny).

    Giants down 2-1.

    There will be no decision for Zito today.
    Birds do it, bees do it
    Even educated fleas do it
    Let's do it, let's fall in love

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudcat View Post
    The bugger is looking good today with a 4-hit shut-out in the bottom of the 8th.
    damn it Muddy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fischnasty View Post
    why is what where?
    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish View Post
    lol im funny as hell

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    Barry Zito was a +156 home dog today Vs Adam Wainwright and has pitched 8 innings and struck out 10. And he has finally been given a lead.

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    i have SFG here
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    pally sent me free plays too late and i lost.
    he gave bookies warm shoulder by doing this ugly .
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    I get more trim then anyone one here.
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    Okay tough guy will let you know when I am out of rehab.

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    Me too. With absolutely nothing statistical behind it, I'm betting him blindly until people realise that he has been good since July last year rather than just having a good start to the season.

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    nice win polaroid.
    Quote Originally Posted by shantystar View Post
    pally sent me free plays too late and i lost.
    he gave bookies warm shoulder by doing this ugly .
    Quote Originally Posted by Casperwaits View Post
    I get more trim then anyone one here.
    Quote Originally Posted by batemanpatrickl View Post
    Okay tough guy will let you know when I am out of rehab.

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    yes, Muddy was unable to jinx this one

    Quote Originally Posted by Fischnasty View Post
    why is what where?
    Quote Originally Posted by fightingirish View Post
    lol im funny as hell

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